Has anyone seen this shock absorber?
What the hell is it? It’s not the usual Novodiac or Nivachoc springs that are in all the ETA C07 movements. I’ve attached photo of the Nivachoc spring as shown on ETA’s website.
I’m seeing these new springs more and more on newer C07 movements without any mention of it. My caliber 80 Mido Ocean Star also has this spring, as I just opened it and looked (I had to, I’m sorry).
I’m really just curious to see if anyone may have a better understanding
Below is the Nivachoc I’m used to seeing (Rado, Omega, Longines)
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These are rather different. The first one turns to release. You can see the 3 small indents is the edge and that the gold is a full circle.
The 2nd one is more like the standard incabloc one in that one end is open and the tips of the open end are just held under the lip of the open groove.
These are rather different. The first one turns to release. You can see the 3 small indents is the edge and that the gold is a full circle.
The 2nd one is more like the standard incabloc one in that one end is open and the tips of the open end are just held under the lip of the open groove.
I appreciate the response, but that’s not what I’m asking really…
My question is: what type of spring is it?
The bottom one is a Nivachoc developed by Nivarox, the top one isn’t anything I have seen before. It’s certainly not the usual Etachoc/Novodiac style, which I have attached below.
I am far from a watchmaker, but I’m confused with either your question, verbiage, or pictures.
I’d classify what you have posted as shock absorbers, not a spring.
Best I can tell as I haven’t seen this three “T” prong before is that it is closest in design to Nivachoc as they previously had these “T” shaped tabs with only two being present. Nivachoc being the system by Nivarox which is a Swatch Group company makes sense as to why it is in your Mido and seen in Omega, Longines, & Rado.
Again, I’m far from a watchmaker here, but my guess is it is an updated Nivachoc device for The Swarch Group.
I am far from a watchmaker, but I’m confused with either your question, verbiage, or pictures.
I’d classify what you have posted as shock absorbers, not a spring.
Best I can tell as I haven’t seen this three “T” prong before is that it is closest in design to Nivachoc as they previously had these “T” shaped tabs with only two being present. Nivachoc being the system by Nivarox which is a Swatch Group company makes sense as to why it is in your Mido and seen in Omega, Longines, & Rado.
Again, I’m far from a watchmaker here, but my guess is it is an updated Nivachoc device for The Swarch Group.
I think you’re on the right track. It might be an updated Etachoc system pictured below, just made by Nivarox? The old Etachoc system (pictured below) is a rebranded Novodiac (made by Incabloc)
This is all so damn confusing. I’ve been collecting watches and nerding out over small details in movements for near 20 years now, and I’m still trying to keep up lol.
By “spring” I mean the gold colored object in the picture. The shock absorber is the whole unit, made up of multiple components including the balance staff jewel, the spring is just the component that seems to keep changing in design. Wasn’t the Incabloc system good enough? Lol
My guess: it is a evolution on Novodiac.
It has the same rotating way of mounting. Maybe, stronger than Novodiac, and easier to assemble...
I think you’re on the right track. It might be an updated Etachoc system pictured below, just made by Nivarox? The old Etachoc system (pictured below) is a rebranded Novodiac (made by Incabloc)
This is all so damn confusing. I’ve been collecting watches and nerding out over small details in movements for near 20 years now, and I’m still trying to keep up lol.
By “spring” I mean the gold colored object in the picture. The shock absorber is the whole unit, made up of multiple components including the balance staff jewel, the spring is just the component that seems to keep changing in design. Wasn’t the Incabloc system good enough? Lol
Def good enough for me.
My guess: it is a evolution on Novodiac.
It has the same rotating way of mounting. Maybe, stronger than Novodiac, and easier to assemble...
Probably right, “maybe” stronger, but most certainly easier to assemble/manufacture….
Probably right, “maybe” stronger, but most certainly easier to assemble/manufacture….
Probably the old Novodiac spring will be used in Swatch inexpensive pieces, the new Novodiac spring, you shown, in midrange movements, and Incablock (lyre shape) only in luxury pieces.
I am glad they find an upgrade for the flimsy Novodiac.
Probably the old Novodiac spring will be used in Swatch inexpensive pieces, the new Novodiac spring, you shown, in midrange movements, and Incablock (lyre shape) only in luxury pieces.
I am glad they find an upgrade for the flimsy Novodiac.
I think you’re spot on. Much prefer this design, and it looks like it was made by Nivarox, too. I just wish ETA was more open about this stuff.
I heard the old Novodiac/Etachoc springs were deforming during service over time. For some reason, I prefer being able to twist out the spring, and replace at service anyway. The hinge attachment always makes me wonder how many times that spring should be manipulated before being replaced anyway.
I have also not seen a single piece of scientific evidence to prove that any one shock absorber spring is better than the other. Be it KIF, Incabloc, Etachoc, or Nivachoc. I mean, KIF had so many designs over the years, and some very similar to Etachoc. I think that this is just a part of the movement that people look at, and they just need to differentiate between brands and price tiers.