Faux tina vs patina.

Why do we all love patina & not feel the same with fauxtina?

Objectively a patina’d watch has earned its scars , but I see a lot of beat up watches on eBay and the like.

Those scars are not the buyers story’s so why such rosé tints?

Conversely the many homage brands that add fauxtina (that actually glows) are derided & seen as pretentious for doing so.

Sadly we do not & they do not have several decades To add patina to them.

I like the idea of “the past reimagined” as I do not have a spare 40 years to make all my watches look action packed.

Pictured: a 1982 seiko 7548 (real patina - zero lume)

A 1980 Vostok amphibia (real patina & laughable lume)

Lastly - 2024 WMT (w/ fauxtina) , not a lume beast but it looks the part and is legible in darkness.

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Patina that I inflicted on a watch is Wabi-sabi. Patina someone else inflicted on a watch is just damage. Faux-tina? Well, that's fake, homage, pretend patina.

Nice watches, btw. 👍

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I don’t mind it’s like buying ripped jeans or costume jewelry, it’s all cosmetic and as long as the end user is happy with it I think there should be a market for it.

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Pablito

Patina that I inflicted on a watch is Wabi-sabi. Patina someone else inflicted on a watch is just damage. Faux-tina? Well, that's fake, homage, pretend patina.

Nice watches, btw. 👍

I get what you are saying.

Functionally though - fauxtina is objectively better.

Thank you for your kind words.

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I'm the opposite - wouldn't want an old watch that's past it's best, but love a bit of fauxtina, because it looks the part but is nice and modern .

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But I'm also into motorcycles, have had quite a few classics (oldest was 1956 Triumph) but after years of expense and maintenance I now ride a modern old fashioned looking bike (Triumph Speed Twin 1200) because I love the timeless style with modern reliability and toughness.

It's the same with watches for me.

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I dislike both real and faux patina so we don't all love it. 😜

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This is one of those subjects that I mentally shut down immediately.

It's just a colour, and I like warm, beige colours. Every other angle to this topic is extraneous and is not allowed inside my tiny brain.

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I accept real patina but I don't love it.

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Interesting question.

The ever glowing Tritium and Radium lume of the past has been replaced, so modern watches are different from the start.

Radium were not usually white, and at this point are usually just crusty brown poweder by now.

Tritium was white but has faded to that creamy brown by now.

Neither would glow at all anymore.

And modern lume shouldnt age.

So a true faux patina, shouldnt be lume at all, it should just be brown paint on the indices.

Im all about education. If are gonna do fauxtina, maybe pick a vintage and specific age.

Like make a 1940s style watch if it were worn in the 1970s. Two vintages in one.

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Unless the lume is distressed in some fake way, a clean application of yellowish lume is just a color choice. I don’t see the need to worry it is fake.

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Watchless

Unless the lume is distressed in some fake way, a clean application of yellowish lume is just a color choice. I don’t see the need to worry it is fake.

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I like that watch too. Watchdives are putting out some good stuff lately.

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Beanna

I dislike both real and faux patina so we don't all love it. 😜

Touché

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Orontius_Fineus

This is one of those subjects that I mentally shut down immediately.

It's just a colour, and I like warm, beige colours. Every other angle to this topic is extraneous and is not allowed inside my tiny brain.

Apologies if I have troubled your grey matter mr Fineus.

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MaterialGuy

Interesting question.

The ever glowing Tritium and Radium lume of the past has been replaced, so modern watches are different from the start.

Radium were not usually white, and at this point are usually just crusty brown poweder by now.

Tritium was white but has faded to that creamy brown by now.

Neither would glow at all anymore.

And modern lume shouldnt age.

So a true faux patina, shouldnt be lume at all, it should just be brown paint on the indices.

Im all about education. If are gonna do fauxtina, maybe pick a vintage and specific age.

Like make a 1940s style watch if it were worn in the 1970s. Two vintages in one.

Thought provoking points there , thank you for your answer.

Can you cite some examples?

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cams85

Thought provoking points there , thank you for your answer.

Can you cite some examples?

Hmm. Maybe easier to point.

Radium dials existed before color photography was common. The best place to look is in vintage hand drawn catalogues.

When the Breitling AVI Co-Pilot came out, I know they consulted the memories of a long time Breitling employee to match the color.

One cool fauxtina might be no lume, just skeleton hands

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I personally can't stand actual patina. It's one reason why my two vintage watches are new old stock.

"Fauxtina" is a color choice which I usually happen to enjoy, as stark white-on-black can be a bit much for me.

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Fauxtina?

Hate it because it is faux. 🤣

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heirspring

I personally can't stand actual patina. It's one reason why my two vintage watches are new old stock.

"Fauxtina" is a color choice which I usually happen to enjoy, as stark white-on-black can be a bit much for me.

Does the lume age differently if it wasn’t worn?

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MaterialGuy

Does the lume age differently if it wasn’t worn?

Potentially, yes, and of course there's patina that isn't lume related. The environment in which a watch is worn, and the amount of service attention the watch receives throughout the years matter.