Are there Seiko Alternatives for Beginner Enthusiasts?

Not much time goes by between the moment one's interest in Watches is awakened and someone recommending a Seiko 5 as "the Perfect" introduction into the Mechanical Watch owners' world.

And yet, after extensive research, I  had decided. My first watch would not be from Seiko but from a Chinese brand called ADDIESDIVE.

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But Why? Isn´t an in-house calibre from the arguably most accomplished Watch manufacturer in history always a better choice than some no-name Chinese brand?

Well, as far as Specs go, this handsome little Flieger truly beats the Seiko SNK809, a watch that comes highly recommended for beginners, at nearly everything. 

ADDIESDIVE® 2-in-1 Pilot diver automatic watch diver 200M( MY-H9 ...

Sapphire Crystal; Screw down crown for 200m Water resistance and an engraved Caseback. Also, it has a better Seiko movement than the SNK809´s 7s26, boasting a reliable NH35. Not bad for 65 Euros.

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Not even Seiko´s newest field watch (of the same line as the SNK809), the SRPG39K1 comes close to the specs of this watch with its 100m Water resistance and Mineral Glass Crystal, although it arguably has a much more attractive dial, with applied indices and AR coating on the Crystal.

Seiko 5 Sports Military | Urmaker Christensen

The continuously rising Price-point of new Seiko´s does beg the question: is spending the extra 160€ really worth it, knowing what Watch brands like Addiesdive have to offer for a fraction of the price? 

 How much is the name of the Brand really worth? Nowadays, even a new SNK809 goes for 130€.

Does Seiko still offer the best "Bang for the Buck" for people just getting started in the Watch world, or more broadly even in the Budget Watch Market? 

What do you think? I´d love to hear your thoughts in the Comments!

And what I´d really like to know: can you name a Watch that more than Equals a Seiko at around the same price point or Lower?

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But you can't see the rotor swinging and the hairspring beating! And where's the day?

Otherwise, yeah, the Seiko 5 advice predates the available cornucopia of Chinese brands.

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Addiesdive,Steeldive,Pagani Design are all well made watches for the price.

The Seiko SNK series is too, and has been around for years and is somewhat of an icon in the affordables category.

I have examples of all and each one is worth every penny.

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Oddly enough I was curious about that myself, and I have an Addiesdive on the way. I really wanted to see how the Chinese have progressed. I've tried a few times before, but the Chinese watches fell slightly short in terms of build quality and the movement. 

I'm curious to find out how an Addiesdive compares to a recently purchase SRPD.

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hbein2022

Oddly enough I was curious about that myself, and I have an Addiesdive on the way. I really wanted to see how the Chinese have progressed. I've tried a few times before, but the Chinese watches fell slightly short in terms of build quality and the movement. 

I'm curious to find out how an Addiesdive compares to a recently purchase SRPD.

I would be enormously interested in that also. I would be really grateful if you could post about that once it has arrived! 

What kind of Addiesdive have you Attained?

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foghorn

Addiesdive,Steeldive,Pagani Design are all well made watches for the price.

The Seiko SNK series is too, and has been around for years and is somewhat of an icon in the affordables category.

I have examples of all and each one is worth every penny.

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Of course, I agree the SNK series is still very much a classic and can look fabulous on the Wrist.

But so do the Chinese Watches you have just shown us! I find the Yellow Steeldive particularly interesting! To me, it looks like it might be a Homage to the Rolex Oyster Perpetual 36 Yellow?

Yellow is hard to pull off, but if you can it's that extra touch of colour that we´re all looking for ain't it 😉😂?  I´d be interested to know about the wearability of the watch, as that is the only thing I am not overly pleased with my Addiesdive. 

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WatchNova

I would be enormously interested in that also. I would be really grateful if you could post about that once it has arrived! 

What kind of Addiesdive have you Attained?

It's called an MY-H9. I don't have it quite yet, but I would expect it to be here within a week. (I got the most generic looking model w/o the Mercedes hands.)

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Seiko has actually offered a new Seiko 5 with the SNK dial, which is more of a pilot's dial, the Seiko 5 SPRH series. Here is the SRPH33.

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A watch that falls in between the Addiesdive you purchased and the Seiko SRPG or the Seiko SPRH would be the Orient Flight. It exceeds the Seiko 5 slightly and is lower priced in general. This version is $134 on Amazon currently.

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It has a screw down crown, but still has only 100M WR and mineral crystal instead of sapphire. It is not as good a value as the Addiesdive, but Orient does have a rich heritage and you are getting an in-house movement, if that matters to you. FYI, the SRPH is priced the same as the SRPG. Also, these both have the Type B dial instead of the Type A dial.

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I do feel Orient is almost there in terms of becoming the new Seiko, as in great watches for an attainable price.

I do think Seiko still has many historic watches that the Chinese brands or even Orient cannot offer as of yet, though most of those watches are a bit more expensive.

I seriously am waiting for a Chinese brand to really step up their game, it'd be interesting to see how Seiko responds.

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I have the same watch and i really like it and wear it. But there is a few annoying things. Mine is running at +30 sec for 24 hours, the clasp is bad, but i already purchased better one from AliExpress and the last thing is the lug to lug appear a little longer than expected. But for that money i am ready to completely dismiss these disadvantages and focus on the great specs that this watch offers for such a great price. 

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Well seiko have seemed to cornered the market in the sector of affordable watches,reliable,brand history ,marketing etc. But the Chinese micro brands do seem to offer more bang for your buck ,especially when it comes to bezel and glass materials,but how good is a sapphire glass from a Chinese manufacturer compared to seikos own hardflex,I don't know. One thing seiko has got going for it (on about dive watches here) is that the glass sits below the bezel so a lot of knocks hit the bezel before the glass ,top design seiko. But you'll find it hard to beat the Chinese on price point due to mass production, labour costs, cheap energy buying in or making movements in vast quantities, in fact in that sector of the market there's only orient who are able to to compete and although their range is small I'd have no problem in recommending them go  a couple of their divers and their brilliant and half the price of the equivalent seiko, and you get history,good specs,in house movement (allegedly),and their own designs,not many western companies can compete with the east for prices and if they do all the components will be from the east. Enjoy your watches and enjoy hunting the ones you like.

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Lots of fantastic micro brands out there who use Seiko movements 

in some cases the actual watches are better made better specs and no QC issues

Heimdallr, San Martin, Steeldive, Seestern and one of my favourites Duxot 

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I have the same watch and i really like it and wear it. But there is a few annoying things. Mine is running at +30 sec for 24 hours, the clasp is bad, but i already purchased better one from AliExpress and the last thing is the lug to lug appear a little longer than expected. But for that money i am ready to completely dismiss these disadvantages and focus on the great specs that this watch offers for such a great price. 

My Addiesdive also runs about -30 sec a day, and I immediately changed the bracelet to a leather strap. But I´m not a huge fan of Bracelets anyway. The watch is far from perfect, but for the price, it truly is a great entry-level mechanical watch!

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Candide3693

Seiko has actually offered a new Seiko 5 with the SNK dial, which is more of a pilot's dial, the Seiko 5 SPRH series. Here is the SRPH33.

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A watch that falls in between the Addiesdive you purchased and the Seiko SRPG or the Seiko SPRH would be the Orient Flight. It exceeds the Seiko 5 slightly and is lower priced in general. This version is $134 on Amazon currently.

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It has a screw down crown, but still has only 100M WR and mineral crystal instead of sapphire. It is not as good a value as the Addiesdive, but Orient does have a rich heritage and you are getting an in-house movement, if that matters to you. FYI, the SRPH is priced the same as the SRPG. Also, these both have the Type B dial instead of the Type A dial.

I actually find myself drawn to Orient a lot more than I do towards Seiko!

 Orient is also a Classic In-house watch brand and some of their watches seem a lot classier than Seikos. Even their tool watches often look a lot better - this orient Flieger or the Orient Defender 2 for example! sadly, 42mm Diameter is usually much too big for my tiny wrists😢.

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Stricko

Well seiko have seemed to cornered the market in the sector of affordable watches,reliable,brand history ,marketing etc. But the Chinese micro brands do seem to offer more bang for your buck ,especially when it comes to bezel and glass materials,but how good is a sapphire glass from a Chinese manufacturer compared to seikos own hardflex,I don't know. One thing seiko has got going for it (on about dive watches here) is that the glass sits below the bezel so a lot of knocks hit the bezel before the glass ,top design seiko. But you'll find it hard to beat the Chinese on price point due to mass production, labour costs, cheap energy buying in or making movements in vast quantities, in fact in that sector of the market there's only orient who are able to to compete and although their range is small I'd have no problem in recommending them go  a couple of their divers and their brilliant and half the price of the equivalent seiko, and you get history,good specs,in house movement (allegedly),and their own designs,not many western companies can compete with the east for prices and if they do all the components will be from the east. Enjoy your watches and enjoy hunting the ones you like.

Yes, I think that the Question I was posing would have been a lot more Controversial had it taken Orient as an example. They do make great high-quality watches that, most importantly, look really good AND have an original Design! Seiko lately seems to be just re-releasing old models that have been slightly tweaked.

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nytime

I do feel Orient is almost there in terms of becoming the new Seiko, as in great watches for an attainable price.

I do think Seiko still has many historic watches that the Chinese brands or even Orient cannot offer as of yet, though most of those watches are a bit more expensive.

I seriously am waiting for a Chinese brand to really step up their game, it'd be interesting to see how Seiko responds.

Me too! I think that many of the Chinese Watch brands are Playing it too safe, only releasing Homage watches. San Martin and Guanqin seem to be some of the few outliers that at least Sometimes release watches with a somewhat original design.