Chronotriggered destroys watches… #4 - Guest editor edition with Edge168n

So #3 is still ongoing, but it looks like most people wish to see the Bulova Royal Oak eradicated from existence. We will see what process will be adopted, but we might try and flog it for a quick buck as well… who knows. So, #4, and I received the following message from Edge168n: “Hublot Big Bang vs the Apple Watch - the watch that embodied mindless luxury consumerism in watch buying and the watch that embodied complete uniformity and disposability in wrist wear.” Thinking about it, both are universally reviled in horological circles. I suppose one of the issues with the Big Bang is that, since it’s release in 2004 when Jean-Claude Biver joined the fledgling brand, in building exclusivity by launching copious limited editions of the model they might have reached critical mass. “people want exclusivity, so you must always keep the customer hungry and frustrated.” (Biver, 2009, from an interview in The Economist) “Wherever our customer goes, he must meet Hublot. It is our goal to make the customer feel that we belong to his world, to his life style, to his emotions and to his dreams.” (Biver) The issue therefore seems to stem from the fact that in the brand’s quest to be ‘everywhere’ its customer is, it has become too ubiquitous. No offence, Hublot would seemingly be there at the opening of a crisp packet, with a limited edition bio-ceramic potato-based model and scratch-and-sniff strap to commemorate the occasion. Couple this with the fact they are very expensive, and many consider them overpriced, and that they are dismissed as a novelty for the “nouveau-riche”, the mindless luxury of the original summary seems very apt. Couple this with the Apple Watch. It’s not a watch, but it adorns millions of wrists. They shift up to 45m units a year. It is responsible for sparking the luxury smart watch trend, with the Tag Heuer Connected in 2015, the Montblanc Summit in 2017, and even a Big Bang model (of course there would be). “The watch that embodied complete uniformity and disposability in wrist wear” is quite a good summary… we are up to series 8 for the Apple Watch, disposable tat. So who do you hate more - which is the most egregious of the two? A watch that is everywhere that isn’t a watch, and a watch that is trying to be (shamelessly) everywhere?
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Props to @Edge168n for this one. I did wonder how I could do this justice, so hopefully this captures the brief. Happy destruction!

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I am just waiting for the fireworks....

Let the haterade flow.

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I doubt there will be a lot of surprises here. 

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They are both equally reviled, However if I had to choose which one would be the first to be nuked my choice would be the Apple because I'm allergic to all things coming from the Church of Jobs.

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Oh man, I am deeply amused that @chronotriggered  and I are the only ones who would save the Hublot.  

I would even bet it's because it's for the same reason.  We both love a good troll.

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In a fair world both watches would've blown themselves up by sheer unrelenting watch nerd hate. 

But that is not the world we live in and since Apple watch self destruct over time....burn the Hublot! 

Stoke the fire

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Dingus

I doubt there will be a lot of surprises here. 

Probably, but let’s just hold our feet to the flames…

in all fairness, Hublot might be triggering for many, but they do a lot in-house, the watches are pretty recognisable, and they have done well for themselves since their launch in the late 70s.

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It has to be the Hublot…as you point out, the Apple isn’t a watch. Plus it’s a Hublot. 

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Edge168n

Oh man, I am deeply amused that @chronotriggered  and I are the only ones who would save the Hublot.  

I would even bet it's because it's for the same reason.  We both love a good troll.

The fact that everyone is willing to destroy a watch instead of a gadget is telling. Blinded by the hate; Hublot are really that divisive?
I suppose some of you don’t belong here… bye bye

plot twist - if the Hublot is voted to be destroyed, everyone must forfeit the watch they are wearing when they voted. 😂

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thekris

It has to be the Hublot…as you point out, the Apple isn’t a watch. Plus it’s a Hublot. 

You would destroy a harmless watch you could ignore for a non-watch that outsells the entire watch market each year multiple times over?

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And the Ressense Type 3 has an ETA2824/2 as the base and costs $40k+, movements are movements, materials are materials, engineering is engineering. Prices are prices.

The ”smart watch“ is not a watch and is useful… I agree, but this is a watch forum, I thought we were pro watches? It seems though that Hublot is the limit… this is genuinely interesting.

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Tough choice, both are tasteless and i wouldn't touch both with a 10 foot pole, but at least the Apple Watch has some sense of design, the Hublot looks like a really cheap smartwatch you buy on Aliexpress for a few dollars trying to pose as an expensive piece, so Hublot it is.

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Unable to vote. Typing this is my last act as those pictures pull the life force from my soul...wheeze...gurgle 

expired

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creato938

Tough choice, both are tasteless and i wouldn't touch both with a 10 foot pole, but at least the Apple Watch has some sense of design, the Hublot looks like a really cheap smartwatch you buy on Aliexpress for a few dollars trying to pose as an expensive piece, so Hublot it is.

Are you aware of the MDM Geneve Hublot from 1980?

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Carlo Crocco was an avid sailor and desired to create the first luxury watch with a natural rubber strap. He was one of the first to combine rubber and luxury metals. It’s a unique design, and seems unfair to be dismissed as a trifle.

Honest question to the group - has anybody looked into Hublot’s history?  
Back in the 80s the brand was praised for its rebellious nature - I‘d argue that many darling brands on this platform have achieved little in comparison for maximum praise.

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I would not say that I dislike the Apple watch I just find it to be so feature rich that it becomes somewhat less functional as a result kind of like a swiss army knife. You will never actually use the tiny scissors, the toothpick will vanish on the second day, and unless you are out on a picnic it will be less frustrating and will likely yield beater results to just go to the kitchen and get a proper bottle opener. As for Hublot... They just don't make anything that I would want to wear.

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Porthole

The fact that everyone is willing to destroy a watch instead of a gadget is telling. Blinded by the hate; Hublot are really that divisive?
I suppose some of you don’t belong here… bye bye

plot twist - if the Hublot is voted to be destroyed, everyone must forfeit the watch they are wearing when they voted. 😂

Hah! It was night when I made my vote, so I wasn't wearing one! 

Nye nye nye nyeh! 😛

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In this discussion I really, jokes aside, want to ask what makes a watch - watch for you. As far as I understand this Hublot is a smart watch operated by WearOS by Google, has to be charged regularly. We are not talking about Hublot as a brand (I have really nothing against them or any other brand in reality. They are just not my type). We are talking about exact model. If we choose between saving a bad looking smart watch with limited functionality for a lot of money from a watch brand or well designed overhyped and overmarketed product with maybe too much functionality from a non watch brand - I would save the latter. These are both not watches for me. For me a watch is something you can watch, not charge. Smart watches are a different form of computer and they will be here for some time until they manage to merge with digital tool watches into something with multiple functions but without caviats of today's smart watches. They can also be completely ousted by another more comfortable form of a wearable small computer (like smart lenses)

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witcher.watcher

In this discussion I really, jokes aside, want to ask what makes a watch - watch for you. As far as I understand this Hublot is a smart watch operated by WearOS by Google, has to be charged regularly. We are not talking about Hublot as a brand (I have really nothing against them or any other brand in reality. They are just not my type). We are talking about exact model. If we choose between saving a bad looking smart watch with limited functionality for a lot of money from a watch brand or well designed overhyped and overmarketed product with maybe too much functionality from a non watch brand - I would save the latter. These are both not watches for me. For me a watch is something you can watch, not charge. Smart watches are a different form of computer and they will be here for some time until they manage to merge with digital tool watches into something with multiple functions but without caviats of today's smart watches. They can also be completely ousted by another more comfortable form of a wearable small computer (like smart lenses)

Hublot Big Bang watch - ignore the picture (used a placeholder, cant change or edit polls apparently). I’m taking about the Hublot Big Bang watch. The spiel is very clear I’m talking about the Big Bang watch not smartwatch. Doesn’t matter which version, the line is pretty consistent, but the Big Bang watch vs the Apple Watch.

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Porthole

Hublot Big Bang watch - ignore the picture (used a placeholder, cant change or edit polls apparently). I’m taking about the Hublot Big Bang watch. The spiel is very clear I’m talking about the Big Bang watch not smartwatch. Doesn’t matter which version, the line is pretty consistent, but the Big Bang watch vs the Apple Watch.

Then I need to change the vote. I'm okay with Hublot Big Bang automatic. I won't buy it, I believe it is overpriced and design language doesn't speak to me, but it is okay to be. Hublot Big Bang E watch has to be exterminated though

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witcher.watcher

Then I need to change the vote. I'm okay with Hublot Big Bang automatic. I won't buy it, I believe it is overpriced and design language doesn't speak to me, but it is okay to be. Hublot Big Bang E watch has to be exterminated though

Yes, the E… I’m not particularly ok with it, but it exists and there is nothing I can do about that. 
To be fair, even if you did change your vote, it’s a forgone conclusion that most on here would destroy a Big Bang over an Apple Watch. 
 

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well if we want to destroyed smartwatch better destroy the overpriced one lol. 

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Unholy

well if we want to destroyed smartwatch better destroy the overpriced one lol. 

It’s a Hublot Big Bang watch vs an Apple Smartwatch. Ignore the pictures, can’t edit polls so my placeholder is stuck with a Big Bang E Premier League Edition.

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Porthole

It’s a Hublot Big Bang watch vs an Apple Smartwatch. Ignore the pictures, can’t edit polls so my placeholder is stuck with a Big Bang E Premier League Edition.

Still the same answer. The Apple watch will destroy itself via planned obsolescence. A Big Bang with that stupidly screwed every which way bezel must go. 

Burn a Hublot effigy

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I’m not a Hublot hater, short of them being over priced, but I am a fan of symmetry and those stupid screws in the Big Bang going in every which direction drive me nuts. I would equally smash a Santos if their screws didn’t lineup.

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Sorry not poll related, general info for anyone who needs the health data from their smartwatch.

During periods of hard training - I'll track things like HRV, resting HR, sleep hours, yada yada yada.  Helps me determine how I'm recovering and to design optimal training stress.

You don't need a smartwatch for this.  Much better data from a 24/7 Oura smart ring.  HR, HRV, resp rate, total sleep hours, sleep quality, basic workout tracking, steps ... yada yada yada.  The capillary density in a finger is far superior than a wrist.   Charging once every week to week and a half.  It's better and more accurate data for 350 bucks.   

And it's never on your wrist, whoop whoop!    All the tracking done without a smartwatch! Garmin only needs your wrist during the workout.  🙂  My $0.02

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Oh wow! I saw #4 and thought “sh*t, I need to up my login frequency, but I see we’re doing one a day now, hey?!“ Well, alrighteeee then! Let’s get smashing 💥 🔨 😈

*goes and searches for post #2

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Oh wow! Ok so this was a toughie…

On the one hand I’m actually a huge fan of JCB - his work ethic, philosophy and contribution to the industry, and yes that even includes launching the Big Bang as it was originally intended - as a disruptive and innovative fusion of materials in an industry still stuck on white dials and gold. But the self-inflicted parody that Hublot has become TODAY (quality, price, gaudy-ness etc) makes this very worthy of the hammer. 

On the other hand I also have a lot of respect for the Apple Watch. My mom uses it to keep her healthy amidst a multitude of complaints, its a milestone of technical innovation around wearables and its industry dominance can’t be questioned. But f*ck me, if they aren’t absolutely everywhere as sad little reminders that people lack taste and capacity to think for themselves and are happy to be pinged at every two seconds. 

Ok, Apple. I know I’m gonna be in the minority on this one, but… f*ck you and all the landfill fodder custom straps you ride your disposable ass in on… 💥 🔨 

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Porthole

It’s a Hublot Big Bang watch vs an Apple Smartwatch. Ignore the pictures, can’t edit polls so my placeholder is stuck with a Big Bang E Premier League Edition.

i guess i adress the wrong pict lol, cant change the poll though 😅

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Unholy

i guess i adress the wrong pict lol, cant change the poll though 😅

Doesn’t matter, everyone hates Hublot enough it seems 😂

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I hate how much I love the Classic Fusion...