Unnecessary anger and first world problems
Don't know if this is a negative post, so please don't kick me off the site lol. I know they're only watches, but few things annoy me more than ghost date positions. Why oh why do they exist? Microbrands, either add a date window or use the NH38 for Pete's sake! Honestly when your charging £200+ ($270 at the current exchange rate) there really is no excuse at all. Furthermore, when brands try to look like something without actually having it (fixed bezels, printed on chronographs, etc) it just enfuriates me. Either put the effort in or stay simple and classy. Any of you agree? Let me know what things annoy you in our wonderful hobby. Ok, ciao
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Ghost dates, like ghosts, are invisible and harmless. Just pull the crown all the way out, then push it all the way in when finished. Like a specter from another dimension, you won’t even know it’s there.
Fixed bezels and fake subdials on the other hand, those are pretty silly.
19 and 21mm lug width.
Why? Why would you do that?
It would bother me slightly when changing the time, but I'm sure any given microbrand wouldn't do it if it didn't somehow save them money, so I would view it as a more-than-reasonable tradeoff for the overall value you're getting. (Assuming you love the watch otherwise.)
Possibly they are only purchasing one or two movements at a bulk rate. I think many would prefer the ghost date to worse finishing, a mineral crystal over sapphire, or a higher price.
It would bother me slightly when changing the time, but I'm sure any given microbrand wouldn't do it if it didn't somehow save them money, so I would view it as a more-than-reasonable tradeoff for the overall value you're getting. (Assuming you love the watch otherwise.)
Possibly they are only purchasing one or two movements at a bulk rate. I think many would prefer the ghost date to worse finishing, a mineral crystal over sapphire, or a higher price.
Yeah I guess your right. Thanks for commenting I didn't think about that. Still annoying though lol and I don't accept it in my personal collection but now I understand why they do it. For microbrands though major brands absolutely have no excuse
Yeah I guess your right. Thanks for commenting I didn't think about that. Still annoying though lol and I don't accept it in my personal collection but now I understand why they do it. For microbrands though major brands absolutely have no excuse
"major brands absolutely have no excuse"
Agreed 100%. Looking at you Junghans!
19 and 21mm lug width.
Why? Why would you do that?
Amen!!
I don't get it either. A difference of 1mm isn't going to ruin the aesthetics of the design, so make it an even, and common number!
19 and 21mm lug width.
Why? Why would you do that?
That is the only reason why I "hate" my Seiko Flighty. To find a decent strap was a nightmare. At the end I bought a fabolous massive 22 mm strap and squeezed it inside the lugs and I bought a Seiko buckle. Here some pictures of the result:
Here's my theory... Keep in mind that a lot of customers actually want a date complication. Movement manufacturers respond to that demand by producing way more movements with it. With these constituting more of the total production, they also cost less wholesale to the company that makes the watch itself. So, it is just cheaper to buy a date version, take off the date wheel - or not have it installed, if the ebauche comes without it - and simply put a dial without a date aperture on it. Date wheels can be sold as surplus of spare parts or kept as a stash of service replacements for models including a date window.
Still, if we look at - say - the NH3X movements, more of the no-date NH38s are starting to appear, so perhaps someday we'll see less of ghost date, more no-date watches, NH3X and everything else alike.
When you buy a watch, and then you have to do an Indiana Jones level of investigation just to figure how to resize the damn bracelet. I get that most manuals are generic to the brand, but for Jah’s sake put a card or something in the box! Learning you’re actually resizing a pin and collar bracelet only after you’ve sent a collar flying to the other side of the room is not a way for brands to ingratiate themselves to their customers.
(hey @bevelwerks, Indiana Jones reference above 😂)
Damn rules 😂 *jumps onto soapbox*
Ghost dates irritate me only in the sense that the manufacturer has opted to save a couple cents by buying the movements at scale and don’t want to bother to be more intentional with the overall design by offering an option with a movement that doesn’t include a date. I say save ourselves all the hassle and just bag the date version all together 😂. Having said that, it’s not the highest thing on my list I care about.
The thing that truly annoys me are exhibition casebacks:
Having a mechanical watch without a see through case back. If I wanted to have a fucking plate of steel, I would've bought a quartz movement, you assholes. I prefer watching even the crappiest of Seiko's NH35 variants rather than your silly engravings.