Yes Seiko has in some ways lost it's status as the king of value in the past couple years, their bracelets suck, their movements are meh, their move upmarket has been detested by enthusiasts.
But my counter argument is that Seiko was traditionally underpriced and they are just becoming confident enough to price their watches like the Swiss (Hamilton/Longines/Tissot). There's still plenty of value to be found in entry level Seikos, they are not crazy value like just a few years ago (e.g. SARB), but I still love my Seikos.
*I know people are gonna bring up citizen, but I've just not been drawn to citizen design and don't feel they are fun/daring to my eyes.
i dont know about middle tier seiko. but most of the new seiko 5 lines are bang for bucks for me (except those 5kx anime collab😂)
i dont know about middle tier seiko. but most of the new seiko 5 lines are bang for bucks for me (except those 5kx anime collab😂)
I think the middle tier is where they struggle. Many offerings in the Prospex line seem stuck in no man's land.
Agreed that Seiko 5 remains fun and great value 👌
Being pretty new to the watch world, and having missed out on the golden years of bargain Seiko, they don't seem any worse than the rest of the watch market to me. My collection is currently dominated by Seiko because of the variety and fun they offer at still relatively affordable prices.
Being pretty new to the watch world, and having missed out on the golden years of bargain Seiko, they don't seem any worse than the rest of the watch market to me. My collection is currently dominated by Seiko because of the variety and fun they offer at still relatively affordable prices.
Yeah exactly. It used to be that swiss watches couldn't hold a candle to the value of Seikos at similar prices. Now they seem to be on the same playing field and more competing on design.
Of course if you are used to the old standards, seiko is "losing it's way", but for someone new coming in, pricing seems fair.
Being pretty new to the watch world, and having missed out on the golden years of bargain Seiko, they don't seem any worse than the rest of the watch market to me. My collection is currently dominated by Seiko because of the variety and fun they offer at still relatively affordable prices.
Listen, I'm old enough to remember the golden years. Back then, parents were allowed to slap their children in public. We didn't wear no seatbelts, because who needs seatbelts! There was no Internet, because the Internet is evil - we would sit around, bored out of our eff'ing skulls all day long, waiting for Gilligan's Island reruns to come on one of the 3 channels on our 10" state of the art color TV... as nature intended.
And, back then, we all knew how to dress fashionably.
Listen, I'm old enough to remember the golden years. Back then, parents were allowed to slap their children in public. We didn't wear no seatbelts, because who needs seatbelts! There was no Internet, because the Internet is evil - we would sit around, bored out of our eff'ing skulls all day long, waiting for Gilligan's Island reruns to come on one of the 3 channels on our 10" state of the art color TV... as nature intended.
And, back then, we all knew how to dress fashionably.
Haha, at the current rate, these styles are gonna be back by summer 🤣
In the 70s the Japanese were where the Chinese are now. But now they are on par with the Swiss. Seiko has par offerings in all the high volume price ranges. The Japanese drove the US out of the watch market and the car market. They almost did the same to the Swiss with the quartz.
Listen, I'm old enough to remember the golden years. Back then, parents were allowed to slap their children in public. We didn't wear no seatbelts, because who needs seatbelts! There was no Internet, because the Internet is evil - we would sit around, bored out of our eff'ing skulls all day long, waiting for Gilligan's Island reruns to come on one of the 3 channels on our 10" state of the art color TV... as nature intended.
And, back then, we all knew how to dress fashionably.
I remember those golden years. I remember watching MTV through a wired push button cable box on a 12”black and white TV while wearing knee high striped tube socks. I just wasn’t into Seikos back then.
I think the middle tier is where they struggle. Many offerings in the Prospex line seem stuck in no man's land.
Agreed that Seiko 5 remains fun and great value 👌
Exactly that. GS is great, and the Seiko 5s are just pure fun.
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Seiko is still a strong value proposition in my book. Not perfect but still a really good offer 🙂
I've never understood the Seiko love... the designs are not my cup of tea, and as mentioned by others the mid-tier stuff is outclassed by its Swiss competition.
Except seiko 5, all their watches should have sapphire crystal.
They do make some of the best dials thats for sure 👍
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Can't be bothered im tired lol. Don't hate seiko just i think they've priced themselves too high now.