Oris Cal. 400 Questions
Crunchers! I wanted to see/hear some of y’all’s thoughts on Oris’ caliber 400 movement.
I’ve been a longtime Oris fan and recently got to add one to my collection. I knew the Aquis was for me when I first saw a pic of one years ago. The design is great and original, the build quality is excellent, and I’m a big fan of Oris’ history/heritage.
When it was time for me to purchase an Aquis, I wasn’t planning on going for the new movement, but when I read up on the specs it seemed like a good buy. The power reserve, while overkill, is great! What also piqued my interest was the accuracy claims. At -3 to +5, I was ecstatic!
Got my watch on wrist and man I have LOVED it. So comfortable, lume is nice, dial is great, power reserve is killer, the list of loves goes on and on. However, I’ve noticed it seems to be losing a good bit of time each day. I’m thinking somewhere closer to -5 to -6 or more a day…
While it’s not an end of the world deal, I feel like something is off here. Haven’t taken it to AD yet cause I don’t want to seem crazy, but what would y’all do? I know it’s not COSC certified and maybe I’m just getting used to my Pelagos’ accuracy, but I hate when my watches lose time. Not that I’m always checking to be right on the second, every second, but I guess I expected better out of this movement. The minute hand “pop” when setting the time didn’t seem like a big deal to me with that great power reserve, but I’ve had to set time a lot more recently.
Anyway, I know this has been a long first real post for me so thanks for reading all of this if you’ve made it this far! Let me know what y’all thinking about Oris’ new movement and what y’all would do if your new watch was losing time at a different rate than what was advertised. Am I too crazy!? Thanks and cheers y’all!!
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I really like mine. It's very comfortable, looks great and it's a nice size. Mine is very accurate.
As far as when setting the time, the instructions they give explain how to do it where it's not an issue. I've found it's not the only watch of mine that needs to be set that way to the minute hand doesn't jump. They also explain that you either have to wind it like 230 times to get full power reserve, or like 5 or six straight days of wearing it with normal daily movement. I only wear it once a week, so I wind i like 30-40 times and it runs fine for the day.
I really like mine. It's very comfortable, looks great and it's a nice size. Mine is very accurate.
As far as when setting the time, the instructions they give explain how to do it where it's not an issue. I've found it's not the only watch of mine that needs to be set that way to the minute hand doesn't jump. They also explain that you either have to wind it like 230 times to get full power reserve, or like 5 or six straight days of wearing it with normal daily movement. I only wear it once a week, so I wind i like 30-40 times and it runs fine for the day.
Thanks for sharing! Do you think I would be right in taking mine in for a regulation or something?
Thanks for sharing! Do you think I would be right in taking mine in for a regulation or something?
I'd recommend giving it a full wind after setting and see how that works first. Chances are it will keep better time if you do that.
I'd recommend giving it a full wind after setting and see how that works first. Chances are it will keep better time if you do that.
Good call. I’ve figured out the way to set it accurately just fine, and I know I’ve done a full wind at least a few times and multiple days of wear straight.
I had it on for a business trip when I was gone for 6 days and it did decent but still losing time too. I just can’t help but think I may be paranoid about it. Good ideas though and I thank you for the suggestion!
I don't have any watch from Oris and have absolutely zero experience with their 400 caliber, but since you asked for opinions here is mine:
I don't see the point. Power reserve matter only if the watch isn't worn for a short period of time, accuracy is nice to have but not really relevant when I'm surrounded with better time keeping gadgets, and I'm not yet convinced that in-house movements benefits the end user in any meaningful way.
Of course this will not prevent me from buying a watch with an in-house movement, but I can't say that it's a feature that can push me toward making a purchase.
It’s outside of spec so I would take it in to be regulated. Should be simple and relatively quick - and Oris are renowned for looking after their customers. You’re not crazy, accuracy is an important feature on the 400.
It’s outside of spec so I would take it in to be regulated. Should be simple and relatively quick - and Oris are renowned for looking after their customers. You’re not crazy, accuracy is an important feature on the 400.
I think this is spot on but just to expand: you pay for the new calibre you're fully entitled to it running to spec. More generally, it's a new calibre and there will be (at minimum) short- to medium-term issues that need to be ironed out - Oris need customers to highlight problems so they can learn and improve.
I don't have any watch from Oris and have absolutely zero experience with their 400 caliber, but since you asked for opinions here is mine:
I don't see the point. Power reserve matter only if the watch isn't worn for a short period of time, accuracy is nice to have but not really relevant when I'm surrounded with better time keeping gadgets, and I'm not yet convinced that in-house movements benefits the end user in any meaningful way.
Of course this will not prevent me from buying a watch with an in-house movement, but I can't say that it's a feature that can push me toward making a purchase.
Very good and true points here. I wonder all the time why I get obsessed with it when I could just as easily have a quartz or not watch at all and use a phone… damn hobbies and obsessions…
I appreciate your input!
It’s outside of spec so I would take it in to be regulated. Should be simple and relatively quick - and Oris are renowned for looking after their customers. You’re not crazy, accuracy is an important feature on the 400.
Thank you!! This is the kind of affirmation I needed on this 😂 I appreciate it and hopefully will be going to get it ironed out soon.
I think this is spot on but just to expand: you pay for the new calibre you're fully entitled to it running to spec. More generally, it's a new calibre and there will be (at minimum) short- to medium-term issues that need to be ironed out - Oris need customers to highlight problems so they can learn and improve.
The only way a great business grows is with feedback like that. You’re right! Thanks for the insight here and I think I’ll be taking it in!
Mine was also off in the beginning, but a few full winds solved that problem. Try it!
Mine was also off in the beginning, but a few full winds solved that problem. Try it!
Thanks for the suggestion! Going to let the power reserve run out and start with a full wind and see what happens. I appreciate the insight!
UPDATE to all who're watching: Fully wound and timekeeping still seemed pretty slow to me. Ended up taking it to AD to be sent in. I've been without the watch now for about 2 weeks. Sadly AD told me Oris repair has been running quite slow, so I could be without my Aquis for up to 4 months 😢 Really hoping that is not the case here. Will keep all the crunch up to date as I learn/know more!