Major news from Sellita! (At least, I think it's major!)

It's easy to miss the news section on WC, but anyone interested in non-Swatch Group Swiss autos should read this...

https://monochrome-watches.com/inside-sellita-the-giant-supplier-of-mechanical-movements-behind-the-scenes-watch-industry/

The most important sentence in this article:

A new version of the SW200, which maintains the same dimensions (to allow brands to switch without changing the casing dimensions) but will be a brand-new movement, will be presented within two years.

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Wow. You have to wonder if Sellita is going to successfully solve the traditional issues with the 2824-2, if they're going to increase the power reserve like ETA did, or if this is just the end of an era and the beginning of a new one...

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It's major only if "No news is major news". Aside from being an article about Sellita there really isn't anything there except a vague "tease" at the end of the article about an improvement to the SW200 sometime in the next 2 years.

With that being said, after owning many watches with the ETA 2824,2836,2892,2893 I haven't yet encountered any traditional issues.

Seiko 6r15 is another story altogether😉

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Wake me up in two years and tell me what happened here.

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they cloned the 2824 when the patent expired and I hope they clone a Rolex movement that has an expired patent.

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OldSnafu

they cloned the 2824 when the patent expired and I hope they clone a Rolex movement that has an expired patent.

If they don't, the Chinese will be all over that

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ckim4watches

If they don't, the Chinese will be all over that

The Chinese have been doing Rolex for years and should put their own brand names on them instead.

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OldSnafu

they cloned the 2824 when the patent expired and I hope they clone a Rolex movement that has an expired patent.

It's not simply cloned as sellita used to build eta 2824 under licensed for eta as Swatch group needed more capacity to provide movements to the complete industry.

When Eta decided to stop providing movement to non Swatch groups companies they terminated sellita contract and other sub contractors like them.

That mean that sellita has full experience and machinery to build "real" 2824 wich blueprints went public domain some years ago. They are now doing their own development by themselves and other companies too, independently. Like Swatch having now the powermatic 80 on 2824 base.

The main issue is now that the push for in-house made the 38h power reserve of an sw200/2824 less appealing on the current market. Concurrent like soprod and Lajoux perret have developed their own architecture with the same sizing as a 2824. Wich offer the possibility to move from one to another without revising the all case design. Reducing development costs for their customers.

new movements architectures like the one sellita will unveil offer more modern features like the higher power reserve over a 2824 wich is a robust but old from 1970's design. Another point it will probably mean no more parts sharing with eta designs wich was a big plus for reparability in the future for the sw200.

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foghorn

It's major only if "No news is major news". Aside from being an article about Sellita there really isn't anything there except a vague "tease" at the end of the article about an improvement to the SW200 sometime in the next 2 years.

With that being said, after owning many watches with the ETA 2824,2836,2892,2893 I haven't yet encountered any traditional issues.

Seiko 6r15 is another story altogether😉

That's odd, I've killed two ETA's but never had any problems with the 6r series (tho admittedly not as accurate). I wouldn't buy an older ETA powered watch again - new ones seem ok (Mrs Khaki King survived a nasty motorcycle crash, well scratched up case but running as it was fine)

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OldSnafu

they cloned the 2824 when the patent expired and I hope they clone a Rolex movement that has an expired patent.

Why doesn’t #sellita make a #coaxial escapement #movement? The #georgedaniels patents expired many years ago. #omega does not have a proprietary right to this escapement.

It’s a missed opportunity for Sellita.

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Selita used to build some of the 2824 movements for ETA and are tooled for it. The coaxial might not be any better than what they have. The Chinese will for sure jump on that.