No thanks no Date window for me…

I was watching this YouTube review on vintage seikos and king seikos and I forget who the guy was and he stated,” I prefer no date window nowadays on my watches, when I was younger I preferred date and day windows because it was so practical, but nowadays no”. When I heard this i asked myself why don’t you want the date it’s cool to have so you know what date it’s is, it‘s PRAaaactica!! But look at me now gravitating to no date complications and clean dials OMG! am I getting vintage myself now too lol😩. just wanted to share that, I guess it’s so true that collecting is a journey and a process, and once view on things is sure is a stage in once life… ok that’s enough of me rambling on and no more coffee for me…

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So you're saying that the elderly favor no-date windows?😂

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PoorMansRolex

So you're saying that the elderly favor no-date windows?😂

Yes I kinda did 😝 my apologies, but that brings a good question, do certain age groups prefer certain complications? 

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When I am in a hurry I gravitate towards manual wind SBGW, wind and set time and off you go. If I were to rotate to a complicated watch like world timer that usually happens on a Sunday, and then that watch stays on my wrist for a couple of weeks while I am traveling. I do it more for convenience, I like the looks of all my watches. 

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For me there is no right and wrong with this. Many of my watches have them but I can’t say that this actually drew me to them. However I do think that some dials can not necessarily be spoilt by one, but can look a tonne better without. I think some dials excel without too much clutter, including (too much) text or a date window. I’m not overly keen on the full sterile dial though but minimalist with just brand logo in some cases really sets the watch off. 

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Ichibunz

Yes I kinda did 😝 my apologies, but that brings a good question, do certain age groups prefer certain complications? 

I was sort of joking, as I favor date functions, but there is probably some truth to the fact that as people age they require less complexity and more simplicity. And conversely, the youngs tend to have a more-is-more attitude to features.

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My objection to day/date functions, aside from not needing it, is having to reset it every time the watch stops. My automatics routinely stop in the box and I'd rather just set the time and go.

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I was going to say I prefer watches without date windows, but I just looked in my box and through sheer coincidence all bar one have a date complication so go figure. 

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My job involves a lot of signing and dating paperwork, so a date complication is incredibly useful for me. Aesthetically: 

Date < no date < day/date < full day/date 

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I like a date feature.  I forget what the date is and often I have to notarize something and the watch is helpful.  The day is less useful.  I often set them to the Japanese, Spanish, or Russian days of the week where I can.  Seiko helpfully puts Sunday in red.  I really like movements with quick sets.  My best quick sets are Seiko, Mido and my Voumard.

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PoorMansRolex

So you're saying that the elderly favor no-date windows?😂

Weren't you the guy who said that flex bands were for the elderly and infirm?

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I am in my 40's and just traded my no date OP41 for the SLGH009, with one of the main factors being that I wanted a date function.  

Am I doing it wrong, or does the no date age phase of life align closer to the golden years? 

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Except for select watches, I like the day/date. It adds to the flip clock look on the older watches and shoots me a little nostalgic boost. 

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Retired... they all saturday. Used to be a slave to the calendar. now i just check it to see when my grandchildren are out of school.

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PoorMansRolex

So you're saying that the elderly favor no-date windows?😂

It makes sense to me, as I prefer no date window myself. Wait, what were we talking about? Is it dinner time yet? It feels cold in here; is it just me?🤣

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I like watches with day/date complications if there is quick set feature.  I like no date watches without a ghost date feature.  These preferences all go out the window when I see a watch I like regardless...  

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I definitely appreciate the clean, symmetrical look of a no date watch, but I frequently use my watch to check the date (even out of habit when wearing a no date watch, before tutting at myself and checking my phone!).

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I like having a date, I check my watch for the time and date before I check my phone, even in places I am allowed to carry a phone. 

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I always think I want a date complication when looking for something new but my favorite daily wear is my Tudor Black Bay 925 with no date. I’ve been looking for a vintage Sub and I don’t like any of them with the date window. Go figure. 

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Same here... dials are much cleaner.

But basically i am to lazy to set the date, when putting on another watch from the box, that stopped running ( yes luxury Problem,  that could be solved by less watches 🤣)

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I get a nosebleed at anything more than a sub second. Sweep seconds are witchcraft.

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For me date or no date, doesn't matter. As long as the overall design looks good to me 😉

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PoorMansRolex

So you're saying that the elderly favor no-date windows?😂

As someone who has been lucky enough to live to an age where presbyopia has set in, I can say the older I get the less useful date windows become, simply because I can no longer read them! Cyclops help (some) but what good is a complication you can't see?

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I work in a hospital and sometimes work night. I prefer having a date on my watch. 

Having said that, some of my watches are no-date models and I manage just fine with them. 

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I don't mind either way except for Vostok watches without quick set dates. 

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This makes me wonder what "watches" are going to look like in 50 years. The reason you don't want the date on there is because in your day-to-day flow, it's pointless. You have other ways to know the date. So in your eyes, the date is a restrictive pointless complication.

If you check out @buettner post called "Anyone else have a soft spot for wild/unusual/funky cases and dials?", he takes it one step further. To him, the time is just an additional pointless complication, that if removed (or made unimportant), removes so many more restrictions.

As watches become less and less of a tool for providing us information, and more just something on our wrist to make us happy, I can see Buettner being the norm, and not the exception. He might just be before his time :)

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Jeremy

This makes me wonder what "watches" are going to look like in 50 years. The reason you don't want the date on there is because in your day-to-day flow, it's pointless. You have other ways to know the date. So in your eyes, the date is a restrictive pointless complication.

If you check out @buettner post called "Anyone else have a soft spot for wild/unusual/funky cases and dials?", he takes it one step further. To him, the time is just an additional pointless complication, that if removed (or made unimportant), removes so many more restrictions.

As watches become less and less of a tool for providing us information, and more just something on our wrist to make us happy, I can see Buettner being the norm, and not the exception. He might just be before his time :)

Might be the same feeling my 5 year old gets every time I buy him a Spider-Man watch…he is happy and feels cool he have something on his wrist that gives him joy. He has no sense of time all he cares about is morning time and night time and that’s  it 😆. maybe Buettner is right after all

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For certain pieces I prefer to have no date, dress watches ect.. I'm reminded at work constantly what day and date it is so I don't find the feature useful so much, it's on you're phone and computer. Maybe I'm just old fashioned, as I am old according to Aurelian 😂 but I like the symmetry and the uncluttered dial look, also not having to set the day or date if you pick up the watch that has stopped, for me is a bonus, my OCD won't let me wear a watch if the date isn't correct.

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date windows are whack i wish watch manufacturers stop trying to stick it in the dial of clean watches 

99% of the time its done poorly 

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I need the date on a day-to-day basis, but at the same time I do love the balance of an uninterrupted dial. That's one reason why this is my daily driver:

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I generally only avoid date windows on vintage watches, not because of the aesthetics, but because changing the date without a quickest is a major PIA! haha. I usually just wait until it's the date in the month that is already on the watch to save me from the hassle.