Would you make the trade?

I can't stop thinking about the new Grand Seiko SLGA015.  But, if I were to get it, I think I'd have to trade in a couple of watches.  Otherwise, soon, there won't be any space left in the bedroom, and California is prone to earthquakes - if anything greater than a 5.0 hits, my wife and I might get buried under my watch collection.

What I think is absolutely amazing about the SLGA015:

  • 9RA5 Spring Drive movement with 120-hour power reserve
  • Titanium case and bracelet, and titanium is my favorite watch material
  • Awesome "black stream" textured dial

But, would probably trade in 2 watches for it:

  • Omega Speedmaster Chronoscope
  • Breitling AVI 1953 Re-edition

Would you do it?

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The chronoscope is one of the most beautiful watches period. I would have a hard time doing it. That said, neither of the watches you are planning to trade are very difficult to get. Should you regret the trade you could always get the watches back without too much trouble.

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The GS is a better investment.

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Wasn't it you who just recently told someone else to make the same kind of trade because regretting bad watch trades and reacquiring the watches you let go was part of the fun of the hobby?

In all honesty, that's a hard one. I wouldn't have any issues getting rid of the Chronoscope (not a fan), but the Breitling AVI is a killer watch. Can you pull off this case size? Isn't it like 44.5mm wide and well over 15mm thick?

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I know when I start thinking about letting something go, it's halfway out the door, so I'd say go for it.  I'm not a huge GS Diver fan (IMO they are too big and have weird hands), but if you're smitten, you should make your move.

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NightSurfer

The chronoscope is one of the most beautiful watches period. I would have a hard time doing it. That said, neither of the watches you are planning to trade are very difficult to get. Should you regret the trade you could always get the watches back without too much trouble.

Very wise words.  Yeah, it's not leaving your wife for a younger woman.  If the trade is a mistake, it's one that's relatively easily rectified.

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You know what's weird?  I started out absolutely loving chronographs.  Like, I would look at divers, and think, "Why would anybody choose that over a chronograph?  I mean, nobody actually goes diving with these things on.  And the chronograph complication, although it's relatively common, is actually incredibly intricate and complex."  But, over time, somehow plain divers and GMTs strike me as so much cleaner and... unfussy.  

Who knows?  Maybe in a year, I'll be back to thinking that divers suck and chronographs are where it's at?

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Aurelian

The GS is a better investment.

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GoingTopShelf

Wasn't it you who just recently told someone else to make the same kind of trade because regretting bad watch trades and reacquiring the watches you let go was part of the fun of the hobby?

In all honesty, that's a hard one. I wouldn't have any issues getting rid of the Chronoscope (not a fan), but the Breitling AVI is a killer watch. Can you pull off this case size? Isn't it like 44.5mm wide and well over 15mm thick?

Damn!  Using my own words against me!

Can I pull off the case size?  Absolutely not!  I mean, the watch will be wearing me.  

But, by the same token, I have a Planet Ocean that's 43.5mm diameter, 16.5mm thick, 52.5mm lug-to-lug.  I look like a kindergartener wearing his dad's watch with that thing on.  Yet, because it's titanium, it's super comfortable.  Meanwhile, the SLGA015 is 43.8mm diameter, 13.8mm thick, 51.5mm lug-to-lug, and the Evolution 9 case design is super comfortable and curves around the wrist nicely in my White Birch and Minamo.

Damn, I really am talking myself into it.

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ds760476

I know when I start thinking about letting something go, it's halfway out the door, so I'd say go for it.  I'm not a huge GS Diver fan (IMO they are too big and have weird hands), but if you're smitten, you should make your move.

Done!  Done!  Making my move!

Unfortunately, I just went to the online boutique, and it says that they aren't going to be available till August!

WTF, Grand Seiko???  Why do you do that???  Why do you have this giant press release and launch, and not have the watch available for sale???

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I would make that trade

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It really depends on how much you love the watches you own now. I'd personally do a lot for a Spring Drive GS.

I can't make the decision for you but my advice is to sleep on it a while. You can always get the GS any time (well, sort of) but once you sell what you own, that's likely the end of it forever. My mum always did say "think 10 times before buying anything", and I generally spend weeks online just watching videos of what I want and comparing against something else (in your case this is probably moot, because I'm sure you want the GS and it is a good choice); but you could watch videos of your own watches to see if there are any points of appreciation you might have missed, and perhaps would prefer to buy the GS and keep one or both of your old watches. 

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marcky

It really depends on how much you love the watches you own now. I'd personally do a lot for a Spring Drive GS.

I can't make the decision for you but my advice is to sleep on it a while. You can always get the GS any time (well, sort of) but once you sell what you own, that's likely the end of it forever. My mum always did say "think 10 times before buying anything", and I generally spend weeks online just watching videos of what I want and comparing against something else (in your case this is probably moot, because I'm sure you want the GS and it is a good choice); but you could watch videos of your own watches to see if there are any points of appreciation you might have missed, and perhaps would prefer to buy the GS and keep one or both of your old watches. 

This is what I love about WatchCrunch.  You ask other enthusiasts, "Should I get A or B?" and this is the answer you always get:

Why Not Both GIFs | Tenor
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Maybe try it on first and see what it feels like? Sometimes watches that looks good on paper feels off when you wear it. This is the case for GS snowflake for me. On paper its the perfect watch but when I went to an AD and wear it on the wrist I feel something is a bit off. There and then I realize that I am very particular with the hour markers (I particularly like the GS grammar of design) and went home empty handed despite getting a 25% discount from the AD

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Mr.Dee.Bater

This is what I love about WatchCrunch.  You ask other enthusiasts, "Should I get A or B?" and this is the answer you always get:

Why Not Both GIFs | Tenor

Fair enough. If you want my actual opinion (based on my taste/feeling): Sell the Breitling and keep the Omega. Fund the balance for the GS.

If it comes down to that not being an option and there's no way to get the GS without selling both... I'd sell both with a heavy heart.

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How about this..... BRIBE your wife, and make her happy... Beg... Whatever you may get the chance to get the GS plus keep the other 2 watches too. Don't worry about the earthquake...even if they buried everyone including your collections... At least you won't feel regret.... Hmmm... On another thought... Not sure about the wife though 🤔

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Mr.Dee.Bater

Oh, man!  That is gorgeous.  Congrats.  That's killer.

Don't have it yet!

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robdominic

Don't have it yet!

Go get it, man!  

When the SBGW267 and 269 were announced, I was pissed off that it was a European-only release.  But, I guess GS is throwing us a bone with the new SBGW283 & 285.

The SBGW267 looks like the perfect dress watch.  Super jealous.

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Mr.Dee.Bater

Go get it, man!  

When the SBGW267 and 269 were announced, I was pissed off that it was a European-only release.  But, I guess GS is throwing us a bone with the new SBGW283 & 285.

The SBGW267 looks like the perfect dress watch.  Super jealous.

That's how it looks in person. 

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robdominic

That's how it looks in person. 

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Looks the business!!!

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Bro, those dinos gave such a nostalgic feeling, I had such a collection of them 😂

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brunotech

Bro, those dinos gave such a nostalgic feeling, I had such a collection of them 😂

Hey man, I'll DM you the link for where you can get some!

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Yes! Swaperoo.  The Ocean theme GS is awesome.  That black stream, or also the lake suwa is beautifu.  For lake version I’d pretend it was the ocean if I got it! 

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and since you mentioned - Japanese toilets are awesome.  If you’ve not had robots clean your butt you haven’t fully lived.  

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Fieldwalker

Yes! Swaperoo.  The Ocean theme GS is awesome.  That black stream, or also the lake suwa is beautifu.  For lake version I’d pretend it was the ocean if I got it! 

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and since you mentioned - Japanese toilets are awesome.  If you’ve not had robots clean your butt you haven’t fully lived.  

Ha!  Dude, I have not had robots clean my butt, to-date.  But, this is now definitely on the bucket list!

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If it's a piece that I truly want, then I definitely would go for it💯

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Seven921914

If it's a piece that I truly want, then I definitely would go for it💯

Yeah, I'm pretty convinced at this point.  The one thing I've never been very impressed with is GS lume.  I think I sort of figured that Seiko's Lumi Brite must simply have inferior formulation to Swiss Superluminova.  But, recently, a buddy showed me his Seiko Monster diver, and the lume on that thing glows radioactively bright!  So, now, my thinking is that GS must reserve the super bright lume for their divers, just like they do with their Seiko watches as well.

We'll see.

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Robcollects

Exactly, pretty sure he will. I’ll likely visit him this weekend to seal that deal. Also time to talk $$ to him. You don’t get a discount if you don’t ask!

@Robcollects, I just realized something.  There is already a GS black dial, titanium, spring drive, diver's watch!  The SBGA473 was released back on December 15, 2021!!!

SBGA463 | Collections | Grand Seiko

I didn't even know it existed!  I randomly went into the local GS AD today, and saw one!  

It's really close to the SLGA015.  Differences are:

  • SLGA015 has 5 days of power reserve, while the SBGA463 only has 3
  • SLGA015 has the Kuroshio Current / Black Stream dial texture, while the SBGA463 has simple black dial
  • SLGA015 has the new Evolution 9 case and bracelet design, while the SBGA463 doesn't
  • SLGA015 RRP is $11,600, while the SBGA463 RRP is $7,300

Dude, I know we made a blood oath to one another, and even shook on it, that we would both get the SLGA015, but I'm kinda leaning toward the SBGA463 now!  It's immediately available.  I already have the Minamo with the whole textured wave pattern on the dial, and all that.  It was mostly the titanium dive watch with spring drive that was the key motivator for me. 

Whaddaya think?

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Mr.Dee.Bater

@Robcollects, I just realized something.  There is already a GS black dial, titanium, spring drive, diver's watch!  The SBGA473 was released back on December 15, 2021!!!

SBGA463 | Collections | Grand Seiko

I didn't even know it existed!  I randomly went into the local GS AD today, and saw one!  

It's really close to the SLGA015.  Differences are:

  • SLGA015 has 5 days of power reserve, while the SBGA463 only has 3
  • SLGA015 has the Kuroshio Current / Black Stream dial texture, while the SBGA463 has simple black dial
  • SLGA015 has the new Evolution 9 case and bracelet design, while the SBGA463 doesn't
  • SLGA015 RRP is $11,600, while the SBGA463 RRP is $7,300

Dude, I know we made a blood oath to one another, and even shook on it, that we would both get the SLGA015, but I'm kinda leaning toward the SBGA463 now!  It's immediately available.  I already have the Minamo with the whole textured wave pattern on the dial, and all that.  It was mostly the titanium dive watch with spring drive that was the key motivator for me. 

Whaddaya think?

I think I’m gonna go look at the 463! No blood oathes this time, but let’s see what’s best. Hey, this is supposed to be fun! Have fun when you look and good luck with the choice. I’ve got a busy month, so no getting to the store until June. I’m actually second on the list at my AD for the 015, and I know he’s got plenty of takers if I change my mind also. So, send me your opinions on what you think about the 463, they are valuable. 

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Well, I think you know I support making trades for a GS you can’t stop thinking about. 

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BigIona

Well, I think you know I support making trades for a GS you can’t stop thinking about. 

Yeah, dude!!!  I just made a big trade!  Will post as soon as they arrive!!!