The Omega Chronoscope has got to go… because the Baltic Bicompax 002 is just that good

In a previous thread, I asked folks' thoughts on trading in both the Breitling AVI Ref. 765 1953 Re-edition and the Omega Chronoscope for the GS SLGA015.  Most folks said, “Yeah, trade in the Breitling, but you’re nuts if you trade in the Chronoscope, because it’s absolutely gorgeous.”  Totally reasonable sentiments, so that was the plan.  

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And then the Baltic Bicompax 002 arrived.  And, now, the Chronoscope has got to go too!  

Look, the Chronoscope is amazing:

  • Omega heritage and quality
  • Co-axial escapement, which my buddy who is a watchmaker tells me is effectively designed to be lifetime service-free (will be interesting to see if as time goes on, Omega really does pull it off)
  • Heat-blued everything, with gorgeous applied Arabic numerals
  • Sapphire casebook displaying one of the most marvelous three-quarter plate movements ever to be seen
  • Obviously, amazing brand

But, you know, the Baltic Bicompax 002 has a number of attributes to recommend it as well:

  • Incredible 40’s inspired design just drips retro-cool
  • Perfect sizing at 38mm diameter and 47mm lug-to-lug
  • And, oh, did I mention, it costs ~$575???  
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[This is not the best photo - none of mine are - but I caught the puppies getting ready to poop in the background, so had to include it!]

For 1/15th the price of the Chronoscope, you can get the same amazing 40’s styling, in a beautiful 12mm thick case.  Sure, the movement is a Chinese Seagull ST1901, and maybe after 3 months it’ll explode and kill my family, but in the meantime, if you press down on the 2 o’clock chronograph pusher, the chronograph seconds hand starts moving.  And if you push it again, it stops.  So, you know, it all seems to be in working order.  And, really, my primary use case with chronographs is to sync the chronograph seconds hand with the seconds sub-dial at 9 o’clock, cause it looks cool to see both of the seconds hands spinning around in sync.  

More and more, I’m coming increasingly to the conclusion that Seiko and the best of the micro brands offer the absolute best value out there.  I'd been avoiding micro brands, because early on I bought an Undone, and it just felt really poorly done.  But, I guess if you find a really good micro brand, the watches are really good!

To my mind, Omega offers the most when it comes to Swiss luxury watches, but even so it just don’t hold up in terms of value proposition.  The only thing Omega's got going for it, at its price point, is James Bond!

Right now, the book makers have Rege-Jean Page in the lead at 3/1 odds to become the next 007.   

Regé-Jean Page will not appear in the second season of 'Bridgerton'

[My wife would leave me in a heartbeat for this dude.]

So, unless and until Rege-Jean Page wears the Chronoscope in the next Bond film, the Chronoscope is gonna get traded in, and the Baltic Bicompax 002 has taken its place in the collection.

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im not really into the esthetic of omega chronoscope. i'll choose baltic bicompax all day (from design perspective), its more affordable and appealing. i dont know about seagull movement quality though. congratulations on the new watch btw, is omeganut now become microbrandnut?😂

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From an aesthetic point of view, I find the Chronoscope absolutely wonderful, but I don't think I would wear it more often than my Desert Sky Studio Underd0g chronograph, which would be a pity. 

Totally get your point

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Here for the dogs preparing to dookie in the background!

Jokes aside it is a beautiful watch. I tried on the Chronoscope, and it was beautiful but was a bit busy for something I'd want to wear every day. Never held a Baltic but there are a lot of good words out there about them so I would be more than happy to pull the trigger on one. Regarding the movement of the chronograph, one bright side is that if the movement ever breaks, it can be relatively easy to just replace! Not my favorite way to maintain a watch but for a chronograph movement, it reduces the cost of service.

Did you already get on the list for the Grand Seiko SLGA015?

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Baltic is a nice looking piece but at that price point get it and add to the collection....don't get rid of anything......

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Unholy

im not really into the esthetic of omega chronoscope. i'll choose baltic bicompax all day (from design perspective), its more affordable and appealing. i dont know about seagull movement quality though. congratulations on the new watch btw, is omeganut now become microbrandnut?😂

Yeah, I do think I'm going to have to change my WC handle at some point!

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Oseberg

From an aesthetic point of view, I find the Chronoscope absolutely wonderful, but I don't think I would wear it more often than my Desert Sky Studio Underd0g chronograph, which would be a pity. 

Totally get your point

Precisely!  I feel like, at some point, you only got 2 wrists, so unless you're walking around all day like these a$$-monkeys below, what's the point in having a bunch of really expensive watches that sit unworn???

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I talked to two of the guys at Baltic last Friday and tried on all of their watches. Going into the watch fair, I had an “Is this too good to be true?” skepticism about them, but it’s gone now. I love that they are willing to pick movements from anywhere (Seagull for the Bicompax, Miyota for the Aquascaphe and HMS, Soprod for the GMT, and Hangzhou for the microrotor) to deliver watches of great value in the price range they sell at. Then they make sure the quality of the design, the finishing, and the bands are all wonderful. Anyone who likes the look of those watches probably won’t go wrong by buying one. Edit: Want to add that my sense is there is no playing a hype game with them either – they are just working hard to keep up with demand – none of those “every watch is a limited edition” (I am not a fan of those.) games going on here.

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unseenhero

Here for the dogs preparing to dookie in the background!

Jokes aside it is a beautiful watch. I tried on the Chronoscope, and it was beautiful but was a bit busy for something I'd want to wear every day. Never held a Baltic but there are a lot of good words out there about them so I would be more than happy to pull the trigger on one. Regarding the movement of the chronograph, one bright side is that if the movement ever breaks, it can be relatively easy to just replace! Not my favorite way to maintain a watch but for a chronograph movement, it reduces the cost of service.

Did you already get on the list for the Grand Seiko SLGA015?

Yeah, I can't tell you how bowled over I was with the Baltic when I opened the box.  I mean, this was my previous experience with micro brands - which led me to swear off them entirely, until I kept reading over and over about how nicely done Baltic watches were.

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The friction bezel on the Undone was just plain janky!  

I think what Baltic has done right is that they've used the lowest cost materials and parts for the innards, but turned around and put a ton of effort into polishing, finishing, and design.  That's where all the money went.  The crystal is Hesalite.  Why?  Maybe because it gives that nice vintage aesthetic?  But, also, maybe because it saves a few dollars here and there, which enables them to then just focus on making sure the bezel is polished nicely?

Yeah, if the Seagull movement breaks, no problem.  I'll just have my watchmaker stick a new one in.  I was talking with him about Omega movements, and I asked him if he could fix 'em if any of my Omegas ever had issues, and he said, "I went through all the training and certification.  If anything happens, no man, you just send it in to Omega.  The movements are amazing, and if it's good, potentially you won't ever need service on it.  But, they're so complex that if anything goes wrong...  it's like an F1 engine.  If it works, it wins the race.  If anything goes..."

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Unholy

im not really into the esthetic of omega chronoscope. i'll choose baltic bicompax all day (from design perspective), its more affordable and appealing. i dont know about seagull movement quality though. congratulations on the new watch btw, is omeganut now become microbrandnut?😂

Congratulations on getting the first comment slot. We were worried about you.

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ScottC

Baltic is a nice looking piece but at that price point get it and add to the collection....don't get rid of anything......

Dude...  This is me now with watches.  

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I can't have my wife mischievously smirking every time a friend or family member asks me about watches, and I play it like, "Oh, yeah, I have a couple Seikos.  I kinda got into watches, and they're cool."  Like, at any moment, she can out me for being a total weirdo watch hoarder.  It's too stressful.

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Aurelian

Congratulations on getting the first comment slot. We were worried about you.

😂. back into the game

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unseenhero

Here for the dogs preparing to dookie in the background!

Jokes aside it is a beautiful watch. I tried on the Chronoscope, and it was beautiful but was a bit busy for something I'd want to wear every day. Never held a Baltic but there are a lot of good words out there about them so I would be more than happy to pull the trigger on one. Regarding the movement of the chronograph, one bright side is that if the movement ever breaks, it can be relatively easy to just replace! Not my favorite way to maintain a watch but for a chronograph movement, it reduces the cost of service.

Did you already get on the list for the Grand Seiko SLGA015?

Oh, and, yeah, I already have that ordered!  I've been promised that I would get the first one in from this particular dealer!

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Unholy

😂. back into the game

I was actually going to make that comment, but then figured I should leave it for @Aurelian - it's his joke, and I don't want to plagiarize, like how Dane Cook plagiarized Louis C.K.'s "itchy a$$hole" joke.

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High end watches just took a hit on the gray market from 10 to 20% drop. The AD is probably the only safe bet for a while.

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noooooo! don't sell the chronoscope (unless you wanna wait two years and I'll buy it from you lol)