Watches in the Wild (Quarterly Earnings, Volume 31)

Disclaimer: Tangentially relevant to the post below!

This is the thirty first in a semi-regular digest of cool watches I happened to see this week.

Past posts in this series have been hashtagged to #watchesinthewild and you can click through for  part 17part 18part 19part 20part 21part 22part 23part 24part 25part 26part 27part 28,  part 29, and part 30.

As always, my general policy is that I never ask for wrist shots (because approaching strangers and distant acquaintances to talk about watches is already weird enough) so all pictures below are sourced from the internet. People are mostly cool, I try not to annoy them.

One of the odd things that I take for granted in my life is just how ruled my schedule is by the Wall Street quarterly earnings season.  US and European publicly traded companies predominantly report on a fixed schedule, anywhere from 3 to 6 weeks post the end of the quarter.  It is, surpassingly, the busiest and most volatile times of my year with tons of conference calls, meetings with management teams.  It doesn't frankly leave a massive amount of time for watch spotting.

So you'll forgive the quick hits this time around....even with the warmer weather, it's a been a little bit of a drier spell.

Still, your faithful correspondent does see things from time to time, including a couple of unique spots this time around.  Ultimately, I feel pretty optimistic that  this spring is going to offer many more opportunities for watch spotting.  Just gotta get through the busy period.

First, a couple of watches that I've detailed in past editions of #watchesinthewild .

Omega Aqua Terra (black)

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Rolex Datejust Blue

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Hamilton Khaki Field Automatic

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Seiko SKX007

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And some longer hits...

Omega DeVille Hour Vision

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Seen at a birthday party.  I honestly couldn't find an opening to ask about it.

As regular readers of this watch spotting column will no doubt know, I don't think of watches as particularly serious things.  They're silly little luxury automatons that don't really have a strong historical or functional significance anymore.

And, much to my continuing annoyance, there has been, recently, a strain of watch thought among major watch brands that everything has to have meaning or history or it's not worthy of being invested into.  You see this with Omega's constant investment in things that are worn by fictional British spies or have had distant relations go to the moon and the continuing decline of everything else, chief among them the Omega DeVille and the Hour Vision which has not been updated since 2014 (?).

The Hour Vision is a bit of an odd duck, a sports watch in a line of dress watches, with the 41mm x 13mm x 49mm dimensions and 100M of WR  to match.  The version I saw was a lovely tuxedo dial with a hint of roulette in the orange of the hour pips.  It's handset but what, pray tell, makes this watch interesting?

Well the hour vision has a cool little trick up it's sleeves, it has sapphire windows built into the case walls so that you can actually see the functioning of the movement vertically.  Only peasants brag about their transparent case backs, we got transparent sides too!  It's a gimmick of course, but a fun gimmick and sometimes it's okay to have fun. 

But the Hour Vision is actually notable for a different reason.  It was the first watch that housed the revolutionary Caliber 8500, the first from the ground up movement built with the coaxial escapement.

I'd like to think that some designer was so proud of Omega's new toy, that he thought the world should be able to see what was happening under the hood.  And you know what?  I'm glad he did, because what are watches for except for the marvel of tiny mechanical things.  All the better to see it.

This watch is not particularly rare or uncommon but I do have a bit of personal sadness that I've never managed to try one on.  They never seem to be in the authorized dealers I frequent.  The quest continues.

Hamilton Intramatic Chrono

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Seen at a coffee shop in San Francisco.  Didn't get the chance to talk to the owner as he rushed out the door with his cortado.  I approve; of both his coffee choices and his watch.

I am often reminded of how shrouded in mystery some aspects of watch history are.  It started with a simple question.  What is the earliest watch with a panda dial?  This is a more complex question to answer than it initially sounds.  

Most sources point towards the first iteration of the Rolex Cosmograph ref 6239 introduced in 1963, when they were confused over whether to call it the Daytona or the Le Mans.  

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While there is some evidence that Universal Geneve might have beaten them to the punch with the ref 22523 which had a panda with a darker dial (perhaps a scruffy panda?) and the 222102 which was most certainly a panda and was produced from 1963 to 1967, I think it's as reasonable a place to start as any and in the years afterwards, there was a veritable explosion of Heuers, Breitlings, Seikos and Citizens that followed.  As I've mentioned before, the originator of the idea is less important than the execution and there have been many wonderful executions of the panda dial over the years.

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What is most curious however is that, there are 100% watches earlier than the Rolex Cosmograph Daytona OR the Universal Geneve, that have REVERSE panda dials (most notably the 1957 Breitling SuperOcean but also Heuers, UGs and others).  

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It was at this point that I cracked open a bottle of Irish whiskey and called it a night.  Some mysteries are not meant to be uncovered.

Anyway Hamilton was one of those post Daytona panda chronograph makers that had a pretty notable bi compax chronograph called 1968 Chronograph A (these 60s names man.....).  They eventually released a modernized limited edition underneath their 60s vintage inspired line, Intramatic, and then a broader production of a very similar watch in 2021.  Anyway.

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The Intramatic Panda is one of those watches that I love seeing on other people's wrists.  I, like many others, am pretty basic.  Panda dials are contrasty coolness with high marks for visibility, legibility and style.  Also, I love chronographs!  Forget dive bezels, clicky buttons are my idea of a great fidget spinnery time.  And I love even more that there are so many options up and down the price range sporting excellent looks, finishing and function.  

This Hamilton is near top of the bucket in the price range.  There's something pleasing about simple high polish finishing on a racing style chronograph.  It is deeply retro in styling and substance with a  stunning dial.  The chronograph buttons are incredibly snappy and satisfying and they even managed to keep the infamous rotor noise of the 7750 movement down.  The size is actually pretty great too; 40mmx 14.5mm x 49mmish?  On paper, brilliant dimensions (if a touch thick but you know, chronographs).  

But when I tried it on I couldn't, for the life of me, figure out a way to get this to sit comfortably on the wrist.  Maybe it was the weight (which I remember being like 100+ grams) or the long lugs or maybe the fact that I have an unusually round wrist.  I even got the AD to pull out the mesh bracelet  (which has a great on the fly deployant adjustment)  reverse panda version to try to figure out if that was it. Tragedy.

I often tell people to go try watches on in person if they are able.  While the internet has made buying a breeze, it is impossible to replicate the experience of walking into an AD and figuring out if the stupid thing fits your wrist.

I really do love this watch.  If it fit comfortably, I'd own one today.  It's a truly stunning watch.  Maybe you're luckier than I am.

Frederique Constant Slimline Moonphase

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Seen at a restaurant during a business meeting.  No conversation (even I don't stop in the middle of my meetings to talk to watches with strangers) but I wish I had.

Frederique Constant is one of those brands that, for the vast majority of watch folks, provokes no strong feelings.  They are known more for exceptional value than innovative design (that's not a dig, I promise).    In many ways, they are the Swiss reflection of their parent (Citizen Holdings).  The designs, by and large, don't do a ton for me but they are solid as the earth beneath you (and more solid than that if you happen to be Californian like me).

That's for most watch folks.  For a select few, they provoke outrage, being the assigned  the  great pejorative of being a maker of Patek Phillippe and Breguet homages.  I suppose that's a fair enough characterization....though I have to say, if we're identifying Patek Phillippe and Breguet homages, you might have to consider almost every dress watch out there an homage.  

I am reminded of a conversation I once had with the owner of a Smiths Everest and his great disdain for people who wore what he deemed homages.  And while I have zero issues with the Everest (aside from the hoops people have to jump through to get one).....

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You do you man, but as a watch community, I believe we have to chill out about this sort of stuff.  Some designs are classics and rightfully so.  But by the nature of being a classic, some level of design transfer is going to happen.  Good ideas are going to be used again and again.  Design is important but execution is everything. 

And on that, Frederique Constant does pretty well.  I last encountered the Frederique Constant Moonphase at a used watch shop in NYC and I rather enjoyed it.  To the extent that you care, the FC moonphase is reminiscent of the JLC master ultra thin moonphase, but I think it stands on its own pretty well (if only because the JLC dress watch aesthetic has veered into archetype versus unique design).  The JLC is a very very good version of a steel moonphase dress watch with modern sizing.  The FC is another.  I can dig it.

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That said, the FC is not a watch without flaws. I'd like to see a 38mm version of  this watch with 19mm or 20mm lugs, versus the 42mm and 21mm which is a little big for a dress watch. The case is a little circular for my tastes and I would have loved a bit of texture aside from a full high polish, I'm not sure how I feel about an onion crown on a dress watch, and I tend to think the hour markers are a little small relative to the size of the dial.  

***Beginneth Aside*** Does anyone else have strong opinions on this?  Like I think size of indices relative to dial is a seriously underrated design element.  A lot of watch lines get this weirdly wrong (looking at you Mido Multifort).  ***Endeth Aside***

But it wears well due to a super short lug to lug and thin height, the movement is beautifully decorated and I think the leaf hands are a nice touch.  The dial is very restrained and very refined and the silver dial version that I saw has a life of its own in the sunlight.  

If you have a hankering for the aesthetic, I'd encourage you to seek this out in person.  It's a lovely watch overall.

What cool watches did you see this week?

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I rarely get to handle new watches. But, it was a Tissot kind of week.

A few observations: the Ice Blue is not Tiffany Blue. It is lighter and can look gray. It did not have the contrast that I thought it would have. I preferred the darker blue. I also preferred the thinness of the quartz.

I have been a silent PRX critic. I had misgivings about the integrated bracelet, the size, the styling, etc. To @Edge168n 's observation above, trying them on gave me an wholly new perspective. They were comfortable and perfectly sized for me. If I didn't have too many watches I could see myself with one. So, if you have one or want one, I say "rock it".

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Aurelian
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I rarely get to handle new watches. But, it was a Tissot kind of week.

A few observations: the Ice Blue is not Tiffany Blue. It is lighter and can look gray. It did not have the contrast that I thought it would have. I preferred the darker blue. I also preferred the thinness of the quartz.

I have been a silent PRX critic. I had misgivings about the integrated bracelet, the size, the styling, etc. To @Edge168n 's observation above, trying them on gave me an wholly new perspective. They were comfortable and perfectly sized for me. If I didn't have too many watches I could see myself with one. So, if you have one or want one, I say "rock it".

I figured you might like the PRX more in person. I had a lot of the same misgivings as you but they executed on the prompt really very well. It channels the 1970s ers of Tissots really well in spirit (along with the Rolex Oysterquartz, Omega Seamasters of the era, etc.).

I like the quartz version for a different reason that you. I actually think the dark blue sunburst dial is a lot better looking than the waffle pattern on the automatic. Waffle patterns are hard to do well and I think Tissot's ends up looking more like a cheaper imitation of you-know-who than something fun and interesting.

A small negative in a largely very good watch.

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I saw someone wearing a BB58. I asked about it and it spawned a long conversation about watches. The guy is obviously into watches, but I wouldn't necessarily say he was into the hobby. Why do I say that? Well, I was wearing my Omega Aqua Terra and the first thing he said was "I can never get any value retention from Omega" and went on to bash Breitling for the same reason. He then bragged that he had, at one time, four Rolex's and sold his Sky Dweller for enough money to buy an Audi R8. I told him that the other big hitter watches I had in my collection were an Oris Big Crown Pointer Date and a Monta Noble and he hadn't heard of either brand. We had a good talk and despite his pretentiousness, it was still fun to have a conversation with someone that likes watches, even if they predominantly like watches for the sole intent of flipping them rather than wearing them.

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I’m not sure why, but I so enjoy reading your “watches in the wild” posts. Thanks man!

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GoingTopShelf

I saw someone wearing a BB58. I asked about it and it spawned a long conversation about watches. The guy is obviously into watches, but I wouldn't necessarily say he was into the hobby. Why do I say that? Well, I was wearing my Omega Aqua Terra and the first thing he said was "I can never get any value retention from Omega" and went on to bash Breitling for the same reason. He then bragged that he had, at one time, four Rolex's and sold his Sky Dweller for enough money to buy an Audi R8. I told him that the other big hitter watches I had in my collection were an Oris Big Crown Pointer Date and a Monta Noble and he hadn't heard of either brand. We had a good talk and despite his pretentiousness, it was still fun to have a conversation with someone that likes watches, even if they predominantly like watches for the sole intent of flipping them rather than wearing them.

I have friends like that. They're mostly harmless and are pursuing enthusiasm in their own ways. Not the way I'd do it, but that's cool.

But whenever someone talks about how much money they make in watches, it always reminds me of the guys in my business who brag about how the invested in something that went up 100% in a month but when you look at their portfolio performance, it's pedestrian. I think there's pleasure in the bragging for some folks but it's not really representative.

Glad it was an otherwise enjoyable conversation!

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TimeIsOnMySide

I’m not sure why, but I so enjoy reading your “watches in the wild” posts. Thanks man!

Hey man, thanks for reading! I always enjoy writing them!

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We go on trips around the UK sampling craft brews and real ales at independent pubs and breweries. On our last outing I spotted, poking out of his jacket sleeve a silver chrono, now I will ask n talk so dived in and said nice chrono, what is it..

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A rather nice Breitling, and it turns out he's a watch person, going to bring out his pre bond seamaster next time for me to drool over. So result, sometimes it pays to ask(in the right circumstances of course)

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Stricko

We go on trips around the UK sampling craft brews and real ales at independent pubs and breweries. On our last outing I spotted, poking out of his jacket sleeve a silver chrono, now I will ask n talk so dived in and said nice chrono, what is it..

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A rather nice Breitling, and it turns out he's a watch person, going to bring out his pre bond seamaster next time for me to drool over. So result, sometimes it pays to ask(in the right circumstances of course)

Heck yeah! That's a lovely spot and what sounds like a lovelier conversation. If I have one hope at all from this column, it is that people start talking more to each other about watches in person. It takes some tact and some judgement (which you clearly have) but you get to meet cool folks and have real deal human connections with others. I can't think of a better thing in this world.

I've worn that Breitling Chronomat before. It's a big honking watch and a wonderful one if you have the wrist to pull it off (sadly I do not).

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Nice watches you got to see!

I think the DeVille Hour Vision is amazing. It is by far my favourite Omega dial and case design since the introduction of the Co-Axial. I wonder why it isn't more popular, it should work as a sports watch for many guys. I'd get one but it's almost bigger than my fist, if they re-did that one with the 8800 movement in a smaller 37x44 case, I would buy it without blinking.

I think dial:index:bezel ratios are very important and something many people actually notice. Which makes it even weirder that so many watches get it wrong.

When Rolex blew up the DateJust (and called it DateJust II) I remember thinking they went too far with the size of the hour markers. It seems enough people cared to make them go back pretty quickly with the DateJust 41.

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Puffin

Nice watches you got to see!

I think the DeVille Hour Vision is amazing. It is by far my favourite Omega dial and case design since the introduction of the Co-Axial. I wonder why it isn't more popular, it should work as a sports watch for many guys. I'd get one but it's almost bigger than my fist, if they re-did that one with the 8800 movement in a smaller 37x44 case, I would buy it without blinking.

I think dial:index:bezel ratios are very important and something many people actually notice. Which makes it even weirder that so many watches get it wrong.

When Rolex blew up the DateJust (and called it DateJust II) I remember thinking they went too far with the size of the hour markers. It seems enough people cared to make them go back pretty quickly with the DateJust 41.

I suspect the reason why it never was more popular is the fact that it's sports watch sizing (particularly height wise) in a dress watch line. The embellishments and case design are also dressier so it comes off as just a bit confused. All that is to say that I feel like your instincts on sizing are correct. If they cut the size and height down a bit, it would be a great watch.

When Rolex blew up the DateJust (and called it DateJust II) I remember thinking they went too far with the size of the hour markers. It seems enough people cared to make them go back pretty quickly with the DateJust 41.

An excellent example! I have always felt the Datejust II was a weird watch. A bit too big case wise, too big lume markers, the entire thing. It felt like Rolex was trying to force some sportiness into the line and it didn't really work for the aesthetic.

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I saw this Seiko on the wrist of a guy on my Southwest flight.

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Who else but a watch nerd would be into a Seiko Turtle, right??? But, I didn't want to bug him, as he was across the aisle and he was traveling with his family.

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I had no idea the Hour Vision existed. Great find and the history is appreciated.

Seen this week during a large meeting at work.

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I stupidly and quietly asked the guy if his left arm is stronger than his right lugging that around all day.

“Why? It’s gold man, way lighter than steel.”

“Umm… yeah… sure, sure”

I felt like those Sesamie Street Martians just saying “yup yup yup” until he looked away. Every time I talk to someone with a Rollie I am disappointed by both the conversation and the person. Maybe it’s just me and maybe it’s just my location, but I feel like I’m being trolled every time I ask a question to a Muggle about this brand.

I should just stick to dorks and old men with beat up Hamiltons and Omega divers.

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HotWatchChick69

I saw this Seiko on the wrist of a guy on my Southwest flight.

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Who else but a watch nerd would be into a Seiko Turtle, right??? But, I didn't want to bug him, as he was across the aisle and he was traveling with his family.

Great spot! It's such a low key nerd watch. I never fail to try to talk to a turtle owner. I'm convinced no muggle would ever buy that case shape but every watch nerd swears by it.

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valleykilmers

I had no idea the Hour Vision existed. Great find and the history is appreciated.

Seen this week during a large meeting at work.

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I stupidly and quietly asked the guy if his left arm is stronger than his right lugging that around all day.

“Why? It’s gold man, way lighter than steel.”

“Umm… yeah… sure, sure”

I felt like those Sesamie Street Martians just saying “yup yup yup” until he looked away. Every time I talk to someone with a Rollie I am disappointed by both the conversation and the person. Maybe it’s just me and maybe it’s just my location, but I feel like I’m being trolled every time I ask a question to a Muggle about this brand.

I should just stick to dorks and old men with beat up Hamiltons and Omega divers.

I love these little fragments of watch history (like the history of panda dials and odd little watches that big companies make because they're so proud of their movements). They humanize things for me and make it feel like we're being marketed to just a little bit less. The Hour Vision is cool and, while it isn't a watch for me necessarily, I wish people celebrated quirkiness more.

I've largely stopped chatting with Rolex owners. While plenty of watch enthusiasts (myself included), wear Rolexes and wear them proudly, by and large it's not indicative of anything anymore, so it ends up being mostly a waste of time. Sad but whatever.