Don't Buy This Watch, Vol. II

The Bulova Lunar Pilot (for @UnholiestJedi )

The premise for this exercise has been discussed. @Porthole and I are here to de-influence you into not buying a watch. No watches were harmed in this process.

Porthole:  Let me start by saying I genuinely have no desire to own this watch, but it’s never really been on my radar. Even vintage Bulova, as lively as it is, does not really get me as excited as say a Gruen or a Benrus when we talk about classic American brands. It’s not exactly enticing, it’s a Chronograph that, if one was to go down the list of vintage / vintage-inspired Chronographs that one would like to buy, it wouldn’t even hit the top 50, narrowly beaten by such legends as the Tag Heuer F1 Series 1 with the delicate Ronda movement that doesn’t survive beyond 1994, and an Undone Batman (the not good one). Even in the list of most popular “moon” watches it doesn’t even hit the top two, beaten by the Speedy and something that looks like a Speedy, has Moon in the name, rhymes with watch, and didn’t even go to the Moon. It was so unimportant that Bulova themselves didn’t even know it went to the Moon until the astronaut himself put it up for sale at auction. This is a watch that nobody loved, like Harry Potter when he lived under the stairs, and then Citizen Bulova came along like a horological Hagrid and rescued it from a life of misery…

Instead of taking it to Hogwarts he fed it steroids. Gen I is 45mm, 52.5mm lug-to-lug! The absolute madlads at Bulova just foie-gras’ed this chrono and turned it into some behemoth of unwieldiness. It’s an ICBM of a watch. Gen II isn’t much better, 43.5mm and 51mm lug-to-lug, it’s still an horological satellite. It would affect the tides with its gravitational pull it’s so large… Moon-mission conspiracy theorists beware, the reason the flag waves is because of the gravitational field of this watch both when it was up there, and here and now with the reissues.

It’s ok… I think there are many chronographs out there that look nicer and having a “clean dial” is a very low bar to clear personally. I actually think the pushers make it look lop-sided, like it’s swallowed a dolphin whole and is struggling to get the tail down its gullet. 

The main thing I don’t like is that they didn’t really bother with the original: it’s not really a homage, it’s more like a correction. Yes, we like the Valjoux 72, but we think you need this ultra-quartz thing instead. We like your size, but you need to be bigger to stand out. You need a date as well, you know, because that’s something… even in homage, the original is forgotten. How can you respect something you never knew about or care to celebrate, flaws and all?

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Aurelian:  You picked the first watch to attempt to de-influence and it was fitting because that was such a popular and trendy watch. Folks, mostly, got the jokes made at the expense of our influencer watch culture. However, the Lunar Pilot isn’t the popular cheerleader or homecoming king, it is an awkward new kid who just transferred in from another school. You will allow them to sit at your lunch table, but just for now. When a more popular watch comes along they will have to sit at the table with Citizen, Shinola, and the less popular microbrands.

This watch is a re-released homage of a watch that never existed. Omega beat out Bulova, Rolex, Wittnauer and Wakmann to supply NASA astronauts with mission watches. Bulova had used Accutron technology in dials and gauges for NASA. It was the accuracy standard for the pre-quartz world. But the Speedmaster won the competition and Bulova’s watch was never made. It was worn on the Moon in a glorious accident when a Speedmaster failed and an astronaut wore his own Bulova prototype. This was not a historical watch like the Speedmaster, or even like the other competition also-ran, the Daytona. This watch only was noticed by the brain trust at Bulova when that astronaut sold his watch at auction. History sells, even if it is a slight one, and Bulova gave us the Lunar Pilot.

I am more of a fan of vintage Bulova than you are. I have argued that Bulova had a thirty-year run from the 1945 to 1975 where their watches rivaled many of the best brands in the world. They made classical dress watches, funky shaped cases, experimented with batteries before almost anyone, and created one-offs like the Spinnaker, the greatest yacht watch of all time. Absent from this rich history however, is the Lunar Pilot. It made no mark. It left no trace.

Modern Bulova is very bland to me. They have less flair than Citizen (who has practically none) and they don’t have Citizen’s technical prowess. What they do share with the parent brand is the inability to see the trend towards smaller watches. This smaller version has a lug to lug that puts it out of the comfort zone of all but the largest among us. So, if you are on the large size, could this be the watch for you?

Why would it be? For what you get it is overpriced. And bland. For less money you could get a nicer looking Dan Henry or Jack Mason. If you like your watch brands with only one name you could get a mechanical Hemel.

The hype for this watch is the barest sliver of history of the prototype. If you wait a few weeks after this one’s release the urgency will wane and you may find yourself with another chronograph that you will like for years to come.

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(The OG)

Porthole:  I will admit I’m not a Bulova fan, and it is probably a “me problem”. From an American perspective, if I wanted elegant or a tank then I would probably go for a Gruen. If I wanted rugged I would go for a Benrus. Classic and historical, then Elgin or Waltham. There are lots of other brands I have yet to scratch the surface, and therefore messing around with Bulova is the equivalent of leaving the party at 8pm. I haven’t even got to Illinois, Helbros and Santa Fe, and they’re not arriving till at least midnight. Whilst I won’t deny the older Bulova was quality as a brand, I just cannot get as excited by them as the others I have mentioned. Perhaps it is the current incarnation of the brand that fuels this, I have seen some incredibly boring watches, and I just cannot distance myself and my thoughts about the brand in general from the ennui.

I am quite partial to a Citizen, I prefer them to Seiko in some cases (Orca, that lovely Chronometer they make, a vintage Eagle 7…). I think vintage Citizen is also pretty cool, with some of the Parawaters and the JetAutoDater as well; some of the older Citizen movements are very clever. They can be a mixed bag though, for every ProDiver there is a large number of randoms like the Nighthawk Red Arrows or those ghastly bi-metal EcoDrive world timers. Is it fair to say that the brand doesn’t really have much of an identity? Probably, it’s quite scattergun. If you then buy Bulova, it’s very fitting that brand will share your lack of direction or identity. What is a Bulova now, is it budget? Is it Accutron? Is it luxury? Is it classic American? If you answered no to any of these questions, you may already own a Bulova.

If I can go back to the Lunar Pilot though - I’ve been looking at it again, and I don’t like the crystal and how it’s integrated into the watch. I also don’t like the hands, I think they look a bit plasticy. I don’t like the cream / blue anniversary edition as well, it just looks like any other chronograph. I might as well buy a MoonSwatch if I wanted a space theme. I also think it looks Omega-lite. My Chronostop is pretty sweet with its tachymeter round the outside. The Speedy also looks particularly handsome, and that’s a boring watch (I’ve tried to buy one 5 times, but I just can’t bring myself to commit). Any chronograph is a better choice, mostly because they are wearable, unlike this beefcake.

I think, whilst rambling, I have discovered why it’s annoying me so: I find space-related stuff a bit kitsch. I remember things like the Space Pen, astronaut food, etc… and it just reminds me of the abominable things that people would suggest the future would look like, that terrible retro-modern style. I need a watch that could take me to the Moon! Take this 1960s looking thing. Look at this robot, it is capable of solving complex numerical problems in microseconds, and yet it looks like a potato and a colander had sex in the Christmas tree lights. Dr Who sets and the Cybermen who are clearly the sound department wearing tin foil. The home of the future: it’s an oval, and everything is jobby-shaped. Citizen had a bit of this in the 90s, alongside others, with their 1481010 sub-brand, really curvy digital affairs… aha, this is why we are here! It is Citizens doing…

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Aurelian:  Sometimes an individual watch is a stand-in for something else. In Tudor’s case the criticism involved the worshipful culture around the brand and watch. For the Lunar Pilot, the real criticism is to be leveled at the brand (and its corporate overlords) for producing many boring watches, of which, the Lunar Pilot is just one. Would Frank Sinatra wear one of his “Signature” watches instead of a Patek Philippe or whatever he really wore? Of course not. Bulova just mines its own back catalog for ideas (Parking Meter chronograph) or someone else’s (Mil-Ships).

Another niggling criticism of Bulova that shows up on the crown of the Lunar Pilot is Bulova’s absolute mishandling of the Accutron legacy. Accutron tuning fork technology was the pinnacle of accuracy in the ten years before the advent of quartz movements. Sometimes a decade is all a technology gets. Accutron doesn’t mean anything affixed to a quartz watch. To do so is to negate its history. It would be the equivalent of saying that a Tesla has a Dynaflow transmission. Oh no it doesn’t.

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The Lunar Pilot is a big, bland, and slightly too expensive, chronograph. So, to the Lunar Pilot I say: “Because you are lukewarm, neither cold nor hot, I spew you out of my mouth.”

(The top photo of the BLP obscuring the wrist of a fully grown man is from Two Broke Watch Snobs. The original BLP photo is from Gear Patrol.)

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Funny stuff again gents! 😂 As a bona fide space program "nerd" since my childhood back in the 60's/70's, the story of Apollo 15 and the original Lunar Pilot is gobsmacking to an also watch fan! I'd love to own Bulova's modern take on their lunar EVA-ing prototype, but alas even the new "(slightly) reduced in size" models are too large (esp. lug-to-lug) for my skeletal wrist.

Too bad, 'cause I'd proudly wear one in a heartbeat if it fit me 😀

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Fantastic writing, chaps! Laugh a minute.

And the knowledge base you both display about other brands & eras is amazing.

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Greatvwork again guys. It's just too big,too big and too big. They haven't listened to the biggest critism of their big watch,perfect opportunity when they revamped it to make it smaller and more wearable but they didn't. Another brand chocking under the clock of the parent company, citizen make big chrono's like the mentioned red arrows(blue angel as well) I've seen one a mate at work has one and has got wrists bigger than my thighs,great for him but for the rest of us an aircraft carrier on your wrist, its citizens dna being forced into the genes of a brand with great history and what should be an awesome back catalogue of great watches to bring back to the world. And when they let bulova do a re edition they give it the base movement treatment(8000), nothing wrong with it really but could be so much more with the 9000 movement. Bulova is a brand that should fly rather than having its wings clipped and made to do with second best or just make garish footballers watches, and the lunar pilot is the perfect example of this.

Not too bothered about the tenuous links to space,they're not the only ones to do it and it did go up there(once). Love the roast,perfect with the mash potatoes of awfulness and the gravy of disappointment. Oh and I've got some bulova's old n new, old great, new should be.

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I really enjoyed this read.

I particularly enjoyed the fact that you do not go after the buyers/owners, you went after the watch and did so with great wit, you both obviously took the time to research for the detailed analysis.

Well played to the both of you.

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I like this game. Here is my report...

STRUCTURE

You write well and bounce off each other successfully. I'm assuming you are not actually sat next to each other and therefore copying which is NOT allowed. Good use of paragraphs though some of your sentances were rather meandering. B +

CONTENT

Historical references outstanding. You have clearly done your homework and paid attention in class. @Aurelian you have a tendency to show off infront of your peers. Please desist in your next assignment? A-

HUMOUR

Quite funny in parts. Neither of you are quite as funny as you think you are. Must work harder. B-

RESULT

A mixed bag. Based on your project which has clearly taken you a bit of time and effort I remain unconvinced that I shouldn't buy the Lunar Pilot. I actually quite like it.

So regrettably you have not made the grade with this piece of work.

Please see me after class.

FAIL

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savage.

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Haven’t read everything yet reserving the read for my Toilet time later, need a nice read while 🚽🧻

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Guvnor64

I like this game. Here is my report...

STRUCTURE

You write well and bounce off each other successfully. I'm assuming you are not actually sat next to each other and therefore copying which is NOT allowed. Good use of paragraphs though some of your sentances were rather meandering. B +

CONTENT

Historical references outstanding. You have clearly done your homework and paid attention in class. @Aurelian you have a tendency to show off infront of your peers. Please desist in your next assignment? A-

HUMOUR

Quite funny in parts. Neither of you are quite as funny as you think you are. Must work harder. B-

RESULT

A mixed bag. Based on your project which has clearly taken you a bit of time and effort I remain unconvinced that I shouldn't buy the Lunar Pilot. I actually quite like it.

So regrettably you have not made the grade with this piece of work.

Please see me after class.

FAIL

If you are curious about the process, we email each other and it’s effectively the transcript. Similar to a podcast. It is genuinely off-the-cuff. I have never once claimed to be “funny”… I don’t think we’re trying to either, we’re just ranting, it’s typically what everyone expects from us. I have more venom than most creatures, and with respect to the Lunar Pilot, it was requested but it’s not one that’s ever been, or ever will be, on the radar, so in effect it’s a collective shrug about a watch that was forgotten and brought back too big to wear. It’s harder to get worked up over than some other watches. That’s probably the worst thing I can say about this… a Bulova what?

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Guvnor64

I like this game. Here is my report...

STRUCTURE

You write well and bounce off each other successfully. I'm assuming you are not actually sat next to each other and therefore copying which is NOT allowed. Good use of paragraphs though some of your sentances were rather meandering. B +

CONTENT

Historical references outstanding. You have clearly done your homework and paid attention in class. @Aurelian you have a tendency to show off infront of your peers. Please desist in your next assignment? A-

HUMOUR

Quite funny in parts. Neither of you are quite as funny as you think you are. Must work harder. B-

RESULT

A mixed bag. Based on your project which has clearly taken you a bit of time and effort I remain unconvinced that I shouldn't buy the Lunar Pilot. I actually quite like it.

So regrettably you have not made the grade with this piece of work.

Please see me after class.

FAIL

If you have not been de-influenced into declining to buy a Lunar Pilot I must assume that you have a physique of legendary proportions (either Paul Bunyan or Dom DeLuise).

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(And yes, this is me showing off that I can pull off a visual internet joke that combines a Bulova chronograph and a dead comedic actor. Out meme me if you can.)

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DANG! Already bought one. I wear it as a shield when protecting my Speedy...

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KYwatchguy

DANG! Already bought one. I wear it as a shield when protecting my Speedy...

Fun fact: a Bulova Lunar Pilot played the body-double for Captain America’s shield in The Falcon & The Winter Soldier mini-series (or as I like to call it “After Steve - he was my friend too you know…”).

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Porthole

Fun fact: a Bulova Lunar Pilot played the body-double for Captain America’s shield in The Falcon & The Winter Soldier mini-series (or as I like to call it “After Steve - he was my friend too you know…”).

The technical term for the Lunar Pilot is a "vambrace".

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(Similar to a "bracer" which is meant to protect the forearm of an archer.)

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Aurelian

If you have not been de-influenced into declining to buy a Lunar Pilot I must assume that you have a physique of legendary proportions (either Paul Bunyan or Dom DeLuise).

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(And yes, this is me showing off that I can pull off a visual internet joke that combines a Bulova chronograph and a dead comedic actor. Out meme me if you can.)

Excellent! I couldn't even try!!

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Porthole

If you are curious about the process, we email each other and it’s effectively the transcript. Similar to a podcast. It is genuinely off-the-cuff. I have never once claimed to be “funny”… I don’t think we’re trying to either, we’re just ranting, it’s typically what everyone expects from us. I have more venom than most creatures, and with respect to the Lunar Pilot, it was requested but it’s not one that’s ever been, or ever will be, on the radar, so in effect it’s a collective shrug about a watch that was forgotten and brought back too big to wear. It’s harder to get worked up over than some other watches. That’s probably the worst thing I can say about this… a Bulova what?

I am actually very impressed by the effort you put into these rants! In reality you would be at the top of rhe class.

I don't like chronographs much but weirdly and I can't really explain why I do like that bulova..

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Guvnor64

I am actually very impressed by the effort you put into these rants! In reality you would be at the top of rhe class.

I don't like chronographs much but weirdly and I can't really explain why I do like that bulova..

I do… affordable vintage-inspired Omega-lite chronograph with a similar space-link.

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PedroGz

Funny post guys. Do you do requests?

I have the black Lunar Pilot and love it for what it is. I have a category in my collection for “also ran” watches with my Smiths Everest (the “other” watch that went with Hillary on his expedition.) It’s my choice over a Moonswatch.

Requests? Sure.

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PedroGz

Funny post guys. Do you do requests?

I have the black Lunar Pilot and love it for what it is. I have a category in my collection for “also ran” watches with my Smiths Everest (the “other” watch that went with Hillary on his expedition.) It’s my choice over a Moonswatch.

I’m not roasting a Smiths De Luxe - how dare you. Plus it is the real Everest watch, not the Explorer.

I have an A408

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LOL, I actually shared some of your satirical opinions and then as soon as they released a slightly smaller Panda, I bought one. I'm a sucker for any moon related marketing.

What I don't understand is why they changed the Lunar Pilot releases to quartz and then simultaneously released the Accutron Astronaut changing it to a mechanical (well I know why $ vs $$$) but still.

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Porthole

I’m not roasting a Smiths De Luxe - how dare you. Plus it is the real Everest watch, not the Explorer.

I have an A408

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Beautiful! I love mine (when my wife hasn’t taken it for herself). I just like having these watches that are far less famous than the big brands. Makes their marketing claims sound hollow.

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Think this just makes me want one even more to be honest!

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Droptuned83

Think this just makes me want one even more to be honest!

Oh well… you can’t save everyone.

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PedroGz

Beautiful! I love mine (when my wife hasn’t taken it for herself). I just like having these watches that are far less famous than the big brands. Makes their marketing claims sound hollow.

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Aurelian

Requests? Sure.

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Honestly, this post exemplifies why I’ve grown to love the WC community. I can’t think of any other watch forum where this kind of sacred cow BBQ would be received with such good humor.

Looking forward to Vol. III, gents!👏

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There are so few watches that have made it to the Moon. Each visit seems like a miraculous rare event. So for me, the circumstances matter much less than the actual fact it arrived there. Once there, it becomes a symbol of humanity's ingenuity and determination. Our collective dream of exploration among the stars.

So the actual specs of the watch matter less to me than the role it plays as a inspirational symbol. The movement to quartz, I think, is appropriate. NASA is always moving toward technical advancement and new innovations. That was necessary to reach the moon. So replacing a mechanical movement with a high accuracy quartz is fine. It fits with the search for new knowledge and understanding. The design to me does evoke a flavor of vintage older days.

Would I buy this watch? Well, I was excited for the original re-issue until I learning that it was 45mm. I looked at my 6 1/2 inch wrist. Sigh. The dream will have to wait. Then I was so excited for the "reduced". And I couldn't believe that it was "reduced" by only 3mm. It is my understanding that this is the original dimensions of the lunar pilot that reached the moon. But still, I'll have to wait for a smaller version. Hopefully, it will arrive before we land another man on the moon.

Now I understand that this exercise is to dissuade a purchase, but I honestly in good conscience do that. Once the price drops a bit, it becomes a very attractive purchase.

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His struggle is man’s struggle. He lifts my spirit. He is a loathsome, offensive brute. Yet, I can’t look away. He transcends time and space. He sickens me. I love it.

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So I got both. 😀

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This watch is on my list, but quite low. I really think Bulova could dominate the quartz world with their tech, but just refuse to make popular designs. The Accurist line would be a great dress watch collection alone if they just made reasonably sized watches.

That said, the thing that really threw me off was @Porthole saying he'd be partial to a Citizen Orca?! I feel if I saw him wear one it'd be like watching a priest snort cocaine. Did not expect that at all.

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tonmed

This watch is on my list, but quite low. I really think Bulova could dominate the quartz world with their tech, but just refuse to make popular designs. The Accurist line would be a great dress watch collection alone if they just made reasonably sized watches.

That said, the thing that really threw me off was @Porthole saying he'd be partial to a Citizen Orca?! I feel if I saw him wear one it'd be like watching a priest snort cocaine. Did not expect that at all.

Who knows why mad men do what they do…

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So I may have been rumbled wearing a Gen II. It fit, so it confirms what I always say, I was clearly grown in a lab from spite and wasp stings to be the perfect watch receptacle. The Gen II wears well on me, but then again, I was wearing an original Smiths Everest and @rowiphi brought the fire with far more interesting watches to try on, this was what we were all going to do at the meet-up. Wears better than expected, but still very large. 7/10.

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Ennui i got educated and l loved the Cybermen , what were we talking about again ? I enjoyed the mental gymnastics immensely, I am still sweating on Ennui …. Very good dialectical fellas :)