Badges, we don't need no stinkin' badges

I had forgotten where that originally came from, but it is a paraphrase from the 1948 movie "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre." I remember it from this:

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Apparently, it was used in a Monkee's episode too.

Pop culture references aside, my recent success convincing WatchCrunch to add some vintage brands to our badge listing had me thinking, what else has been overlooked and how powerful have I become?

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It was pretty easy to see that Mido and Rado had been overlooked. They are part of the Swatch Group now, but each has an interesting history in its own right. Despite Swatch trying to keep them in certain markets, the success of the Ocean Star and Captain Cook lines has penetrated everywhere.

Some other Swiss brands have historical significance. @ChronoGuy discussed Titoni here. Titus (now Solvil et Titus) is important in the early development of the wrist watch because of its founder Paul Ditishiem. They are great watches. Lastly, West End boasts some firsts. I discussed them here.

All three of these companies have recently concentrated primarily in the Asian and Indian markets. Even though that is a small part of WC, it may be the largest area of watch consumption in the world.

Badges don't confer status or knowledge. We get them by the occasional post and mostly by commenting on the posts of others. I don't know any more about JLC or Cartier then anyone else, probably less. (Point of comparison: @HotWatchChick69 has only one badge, Grand Seiko, and he has practically no experience with the brand.)

Edit: Forgot to tell you, WC says that they are adding these.

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Badges don't confer status or knowledge.

That's true and probably a good thing, I would say. The ability to collect badges for different brands just by participating in conversation incentivises us to at least explore different brands. In the process one might find something they like and dig deeper. It's bait so it must be accessible, no?

That said, there is probably room for an "expert badge" for each brand but I'm not sure on whose authority those could be given out... so I guess it won't happen any time soon.

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Another brand worthy of a Badge is Alpina. Smaller following but interesting history of ownership and accomplishments. #alpina 

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And there's still no badge for cats. 

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I remember it as "We don't need no stinking badgers" from UHF.

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FreshPots

Another brand worthy of a Badge is Alpina. Smaller following but interesting history of ownership and accomplishments. #alpina 

Propose it. I agree.

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MegaBob

Badges don't confer status or knowledge.

That's true and probably a good thing, I would say. The ability to collect badges for different brands just by participating in conversation incentivises us to at least explore different brands. In the process one might find something they like and dig deeper. It's bait so it must be accessible, no?

That said, there is probably room for an "expert badge" for each brand but I'm not sure on whose authority those could be given out... so I guess it won't happen any time soon.

Most of us only know stuff because of the internet. I can think of only about 10 or so crunchers that have watch industry experience. So, I won't be an expert anytime soon.

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Aurelian

Most of us only know stuff because of the internet. I can think of only about 10 or so crunchers that have watch industry experience. So, I won't be an expert anytime soon.

Indeed it is much better that we leave “Expert” out of our WC vocabulary. “Cult Leader” or “Trolly with a Rolly” I could go for.

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Aurelian

Most of us only know stuff because of the internet. I can think of only about 10 or so crunchers that have watch industry experience. So, I won't be an expert anytime soon.

I don't think you need industry experience to qualify as an expert in some areas. Perhaps expert is the wrong term, I think of it like experience points ("XP") in a role playing game or something. 

If you've bought and owned many watches you gain XP. For vintage in particular, one might know a lot more and have a much better frame of reference for comparing quality etc. than someone who works in the industry right now, even a watch maker who has seen many more because the point of view is more relevant even though there is less knowledge (if that makes sense?).

There is also the ownership side of the equation. Experiencing a brand's customer service and after sales care is something you can get by being an outsider to the industry, again arguably an even more relevant perspective.

For example. 

  • A watch maker will have a very different and much less relevant view on how much of a pain it is to own a vintage XYZ. He will be biased towards what he/she likes to work on, not what keeps good time and/or is more usable day to day. It might be subconscious but I'm pretty sure it is a thing.
  • A watch dealer or sales rep will experience the service differently than someone who has no direct channel to the service centres etc.

Maybe brand newbie and brand veteran is more appropriate...

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To be honest - I’m not a major fan of the badges. I got a Seiko badge early doors and I’m not a Seikophile, and I’m one of the only owners of a Corum or a VC and no one talks about them so I will not get enough of a post count even at 2k+ posts, it’s a two-way issue. 

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Thanks for the link to my post @Aurelian.  I really would like to get that radium removed and put that Titus back into service, which I still haven't been able to find someone to do.  It was gifted to my grandfather in 1945 by his older brother, who had just returned from serving in Europe with the U.S. Army's 100th Division, where he was wounded and earned a Purple Heart.  Unfortunately, he was clipped and killed by a drunk driver while on his motorcycle in 1947, so that watch is one of only a handful of things that my grandfather still has from his brother.

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Porthole

To be honest - I’m not a major fan of the badges. I got a Seiko badge early doors and I’m not a Seikophile, and I’m one of the only owners of a Corum or a VC and no one talks about them so I will not get enough of a post count even at 2k+ posts, it’s a two-way issue. 

How did Corum get a badge anyway? It was one of the original ones too. I always assumed that Corum owners are just frustrated Hublot owners.

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Porthole

To be honest - I’m not a major fan of the badges. I got a Seiko badge early doors and I’m not a Seikophile, and I’m one of the only owners of a Corum or a VC and no one talks about them so I will not get enough of a post count even at 2k+ posts, it’s a two-way issue. 

I would slightly qualify that: I'm not a fan of the branded badges. A wristy badge, meeting organizr badge, content contributor badge, etc. they do make sense.

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Aurelian

How did Corum get a badge anyway? It was one of the original ones too. I always assumed that Corum owners are just frustrated Hublot owners.

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I am that I suppose.

It was an OG badge.

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The only brand badge I have is Rolex and I don’t even own one 😩

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K.evin

The only brand badge I have is Rolex and I don’t even own one 😩

I have many badges that I don't own because I comment too much. I have a Zodiac and a Vostok but can't seem to get those badges.